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Stealth Operations
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- Subject: Stealth Operations
- From: Stevan Harnad <harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:12:20 EDT
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On 16-Jul-09, at 6:06 PM, Anthony Watkinson wrote: > I have been away and am therefore slow in replying. > > I am happy with this transparency, Stefan, but I cannot help > noticing the difference between the words "very likely" i.e > succesful populating of institutional repositories will make the > subscription model untenable and the words "might or might not" > provided subsequently. OK - there is no proof but it is very > likely. We seem to agree on this. I find it difficult to see how > there could be a proof. > > The aim of the so-called Green approach is to achieve Open Access > by stealth - is it not? I am truly perplexed! What is stealthy about advocating, openly, vociferously, that Green OA should be universally mandated by research institutions and research funders? If skywriting that all over the stratosphere is stealthy ,then what on earth would be UNstealthy? Or is this perhaps just the usual conflation of OA with Gold OA? (In other words, are you implicitly assuming that what I am really aiming for is a conversion to Gold OA publishing, rather than just universal Green OA? Well. let me say -- again as openly as one is empowered to be, given the available human media of expression -- let me say, write, and skywrite, with hand on heart, that all I mean or ever meant by OA is immediate free online access to all refereed research articles, and that that's what Green OA and Green OA mandates provide. I have no intrinsic interest whatsoever in journal publishers' cost-recovery models and I try to refrain from speculating about them as much as I can. I admit lapses now and again, but if no one else mentions it, I never do.) So I repeat: There is no evidence yet that Green OA has reduced subscriptions, let alone made them unsustainable. If and when it does, journals downsize and convert to Gold OA, and institutions can pay out of their windfall subscription savings. Meantime, full speed ahead to mandating universal Green OA. What is the probability that universal Green OA will force a transition to Gold OA? I happen to personally think it's high. But who am I? I was convinced that the probability of universal Green OA -- spontaneous and unmandated -- was so high in 1994 that it would be with us virtually overnight. Here we are, a decade and a half later, in 2009, Green OA is still only at about 15%, and only 39 of the planet's 10,000 universities have mandated Green OA! Now I would take that as strong evidence that my personal belief that universal Green OA is likely to lead to Gold OA (let alone the time- scale on which this will happen) is not to be taken too seriously... Stevan PS Anthony does have a point about what could be (mis)construed as my "true agenda" based on the infamous 1994 "subversive proposal," in which there was a definite lapse (but no stealth!). I should not have said a single word about publishing there, just about self-archiving. (I've since admitted this, in a 10-year retrospective "mea culpa.") But the "subversion" I had in mind even in 1994 was not of the publishing model, but of the access model. On publishing models, I plead nolo contendere. The research community has far greener pastures to harvest. http://www.arl.org/sc/subversive/i-overture-the-subversive-proposal.shtml http://bit.ly/12ywF1
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