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Re: OA - What cost? What value?
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- From: "Armbruster, Chris" <Chris.Armbruster@EUI.eu>
- Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:50:41 EST
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I would like to thank Sandy very much for engaging with this particular analysis and the recommendations on scholarly communication and scientific publishing. For the benefit of this list I will do my best to address the queries: 1. 'Trade' publishing: I was looking for a concept that would convey that guild publishing (repositories) and trade (commercial) publishing (journals and books) could be complementary elements of scientific/scholarly publishing. If trade publishing is a bad choice due to its set connotations, then I would use the term commercial publishing. That said, I am also open to further advice on how to conceptualise and describe these two proposed (complementary) elements and to designate the value-adding provided when (commercial, university, society) publishers focus on certification and navigation services. 2. Books: Sandy is right that I was thinking mainly of research articles. I think that the system may be adopted without much further ado for book chapters when we are dealing with an edited volume. In fact, I am doing this with colleagues - i.e. the book chapters will be posted as working papers initially and then we proceed to edit the book, with revisions, introduction and conclusion. But that does not fully answer Sandy's query and his concerns about the 'two cultures': Would other subscribers of this list think that it is possible to disseminate books from guild publishers (repositories)? 3. Certification: Certification processes for books and journals and different types of books and journals may well be different and diverge. I have some observations on this: a) When research articles are posted to guild publishers and thus distributed to colleagues, 'double-blind peer review' is not really any longer sensible (most competent peer reviewers will have seen the piece). Large communities in the natural and social sciences seem to be happy with this; b) Some guild publishers employ metrics to track and rank publications, these are interesting measures for authors, readers and peers, and potentially raise the bar on the quality of formal peer review (does it tell me anythig I cannot already observe from a guild publisher?); c) If dissemination were organised from guild publishers (repositories) and licensing to commercial publishers non-exclusive, then - so my strategic reflection - there would be more competitive pressure to improve and diversify certification ! and navigation services. In sum: I think we can already observe pressures to innovate with certification and navigation and commercial publishers are experimenting with new kinds of peer review and new kinds of navigation services that are meant to principally serve readers. Chris Armbruster -----Original Message----- From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu on behalf of Sandy Thatcher Sent: Wed 28/11/2007 05:08 To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Re: OA - What cost? What value? I have, belatedly, read two of Chris Armbruster's papers in which he elaborates the view underling his comments below: *Cyberscience and the Knowledge-Based Economy, Open Access and Trade Publishing: from Contradiction to Compatibility with Nonexclusive Copyright Licensing http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=849305 *Society Publishing, the Internet and Open Access: Shifting Mission-Orientation from Content Holding to Certification and Navigation Services? http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=997819 These indeed offer a very different perspective from what one usually hears on this list, questioning whether Green OA and Gold OA really make any sense and suggesting a new use for existing copyright law rather than arguing for its reform. The gist of Chris's argument, as I understand it, is that the logic of scholarly communication recommends an approach that supports the natural tendency of scholars to use disciplinary or subject-specific channels for exchanging ideas. So, in his terms, "guild publishing" makes the most sense, in contrast, say, with larger aggregations of disparate materials collected in most institutional repositories. His models are arXiv, the Research Papers in Economics (RePEc), and the Social Science Research Network (SSRN), which has recently added a Humanities counterpart. His argument turns on separating dissemination from certification. Dissemination would occur immediately upon the submission of a paper to such a guild-supported repository whose contents would be openly available to everyone in the world. The basic functions of such a repository would be to register a work (which is important for establishing priority claims), archive it, and disseminate it "open access." The process of certification would extend over a considerable period of time and involve a variety of different modes of validating quality and value: "not just publication in prestigious journals, but also keynote speeches, research grants, scholarly awards and, ultimately, the Festschrift, the lifetime achievement award and the Nobel Prize (or its substitutes)." This system would require that nonexclusive licenses be used instead of outright transfers of copyright as under the present system. In this way, value-adding businesses could be built to provide a variety of types of certification and to bundle certified materials for use by other audiences outside the guild. Chris calls this "layered certification." It would provide an avenue for publishers, both commercial and nonprofit, to continue offering services that would be valued in the marketplace and therefore could be the basis for a viable business. Current societies might, I suppose, do both: provide the basic "guild" repository and support that cost from either membership dues or value-added certifying services. I think this approach makes a lot of sense, and it certainly provides an interesting alternative to the other alternatives that have dominated the debates. But I do have a few questions: First, I am puzzled by Chris's use of the phrase "trade publishing" to designate the value-adding type of business that he foresees arising from a regime of guild publishing and nonexclusive licensing. In the U.S. "trade" publishing has a specific meaning, and it would appear not to be the kind of business Chris really has in mind. Perhaps he can provide a definition or use a different term that would not involve this potential confusion. Second, while I see this as an excellent model for the publishing of articles, I am wondering how it applies to books. Chris at various points seems to place book publishing outside of this model, treating it as a realm where exclusive copyright transfers still make sense. But then we end up with the bifurcation of knowledge between books and journals that, ultimately, I do not believe to be viable and runs counter to the very logic of scholarly discourse that Chris has used to justify his preferred model. What we would have here is another version of C.P. Snow's "two cultures"--instead of the sciences and the humanities, the divide would be between book-based and journal-based knowledge. Third, I would be interested in Chris's views of how certification for books might, or might not, differ from certification for journal articles. I see a danger in relying exclusively on peer review for the former as carried out by "experts" within any given scholarly society, as it would tend to bias certification in favor of established paradigm-supporting as opposed to paradigm-challenging knowledge. The system of certification that is employed by university presses employs peer review as only one among several components; others include the roles of the acquiring editor and the faculty editorial board, which both bring distinctive "value added" to the process. This cannot be replicated solely from within the confines of a scholarly society. But I do applaud Chris's wide vision of what can count as certification, and perhaps it could readily incorporate this particular kind of value added as a unique service that university presses perform (unique in that,. even though some commercial academic publishers may employ peer reviewers as part of their decision-making process, they do not have faculty editorial boards advising them). I apologize for this lengthy post, but it reflects my genuine enthusiasm for Chris's special contribution to our debates, which I am only now finally coming to appreciate fully. Sandy Thatcher Penn State Press
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