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RE: COUNTER posting from Peter Shepherd
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- Subject: RE: COUNTER posting from Peter Shepherd
- From: David Goodman <dgoodman@princeton.edu>
- Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 18:32:55 EDT
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As a member of the Counter Executive Committee from its beginnings, I do not share Peter's confidence in the current procedures, nor do I agree with his interpretation of Phil Davis's results. Phil showed that the variation in counts between publishers was greater than could be explained by html/ PDF variation. While the greater uniformity in interfaces has reduced the html/PDF variation between different publishers, it does not affect any other factors. Phil's study shows a nine-fold variation; the maximum effect of html/PDF is two-fold, thus leaving the majority of the difference unaccounted for. Peter says , correctly, that the results between different publishers are more comparable than prior to Counter--and indeed Counter did play a role in getting one particularly important non-profit publisher to change its interface to diminish the html/pdf variation. That does not mean that the results are even approximately comparable overall. There is not the least data to show they are, and there is Phil's data to suggest that they are not. It has been decided to defer the consideration of these problems until the first round of audits has been completed, which is probably a realistic decision. But the audits measure only the accuracy of reporting from a known test script at a site known to the publisher. What the will evaluate is the accuracy of this report. They will not evaluate the accuracy of reporting under library conditions in general, and certainly not from any particular library. They will not audit comparability between publishers, nor will the determine whether there is any consistency between results being presently reported and those in the past. Were I still collecting, I would continue to rely primarily on the one reliable measure we have, even though it does not measure all aspects of use--local citations. David Goodman, Ph.D., M.L.S. dgoodman@princeton.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamaker, Charles" <cahamake@uncc.edu> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:34 pm Subject: RE: COUNTER posting from Peter Shepherd To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu > I disagree with Peter's conclusion that:" There are many > reasons why PDF/html ratios may vary from publisher to > publisher (archive formats; different practices in different > subject fields, to name but two) and not too much should be > read into them." > > My experience is that faculty and researchers citing articles > generally need pdf. I don't believe html is a substitute when it > comes time to cite an article in formal publication. This > experience suggests to me we should anticipate differences in > usage patterns are meaningful. > > Chuck Hamaker > Associate University Librarian Collections and Technical Services > Atkins Library > University of North Carolina Charlotte > Charlotte, NC 28223
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