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Clarification on SERU proposal
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- Subject: Clarification on SERU proposal
- From: "Judy Luther" <judy.luther@informedstrategies.com>
- Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:19:19 EDT
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John, Thank you for your observations, which the working group will be reviewing. Your legal points expand on the area of contract law that we discussed in developing SERU and are helpful as background. And you are correct in your observations regarding the creation of a contract, albeit without a license; however, we look to a different conclusion. Given that the motivation to streamline the process is based on publishers and librarians being comfortable with the level of risk, we are not seeking an "unarguable ....contractual relationship". Licenses do serve that purpose for those that want to use them. SERU is an option that can relieve publishers/librarians of the expense of processing a legal document when they are comfortable with the expectations described in SERU. We don't expect SERU to apply in all circumstances. Our approach is to separate the business, legal and use terms that are now in a contract. We deliberately set aside the legal language (warranties, liabilities, jurisdiction, etc), let the purchase order describe the product, price, length of access, and reference in SERU expectations related to use and service. These are not standards nor guidelines but a reflection of what can be considered common by many publishers and librarians. Judy Luther MLS, MBA Informed Strategies LLC judy.luther@informedstrategies.com <outbind://203/www.informedstrategies.com> _____ Post by John Cox on March 23, 2007 To clarify (and, I fear, introduce some murky complexities to) the postings made by Judy Luther and Joe Esposito: Even if there is no formal written agreement signed by both parties, a contract exists because a trading relationship exists in which goods or services have been provided in exchange for money. There has to be offer and acceptance (i.e. you offer me a journal and I buy a license for access to it), consideration (i.e. I pay for it) and an intention to create legal relations (i.e. both parties expect to be bound by the transaction. If a dispute ever arises, the contract will be implied from the conduct of the parties. Indeed, if there were a written contract, but it never got signed, but the services were supplied and paid for anyway, that level of "part performance" would establish the contract. So far, so clear. The SERU guidelines are an admirable attempt to remove the time-consuming and expensive process of negotiating the wording in a formal written license for electronic scholarly content. The problem with the draft SERU guidelines ( <http://www.niso.org/committees/SERU/SERUdraft0.3.pdf> as they are drafted is that they are rather general, and open to different interpretations by different parties. They also state that "neither this statement nor this document constitute a license agreement". It is therefore possible to argue that using the guidelines is not intended to create legal relations, and therefore they form no part of the contract that would exist. The contractual relationship then defaults to the conduct of the parties. Oh dear. The SERU guidelines need to be much clearer about setting a set of standards, or rights and obligations, that CAN be unarguable incorporated into a contractual relationship. As Sam Goldwyn said, a verbal contract is only as good as the paper that it is written on. John Cox Managing Director John Cox Associates Ltd Rookwood, Bradden TOWCESTER, Northants NN12 8ED United Kingdom E-mail: John.E.Cox@btinternet.com Web: www.johncoxassociates.com
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