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RE: Berkeley faculty statement on scholarly publishing
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- Subject: RE: Berkeley faculty statement on scholarly publishing
- From: "David Goodman" <David.Goodman@liu.edu>
- Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:48:12 EDT
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Dear Jan, In your posting, you seem to still identify OA with OA Journals. Now that you no longer represent a publisher of OA Journals, you can appropriately take a broader view. It is clearly true that the switch from subscription journals to OA Journals will not save money beyond the savings in transaction cost, and the possible competition for lower author fees. Those who find such savings are examining small-scale amateur production, which is appropriate for some titles, but not the larger, more important, and more expensive. You are of course totally correct that the appeal of OA Journals is not cost savings, but the other manifold advantages of OA. Those who look for a system that is substantially less expensive to operate must look elsewhere. Why do many academic libraries wish to look elsewhere? Basically, a system costing as much as the present system is not affordable over the long run. If a system can be devised that would limit annual cost increases to the expected rate of library budget increases (optimistically, that means between 0% and 3%) then they might be. I think for any system based on OA Journals to prove viable, this needs to be demonstrated. I do not think it impossible. There is first of all the possibility of technical advances, but I do not see that a system free of manual intervention can be possible, which inevitably restricts the savings. There is second the realization that most scholarly articles might not justify the expenses of full-scale professional journals. The much less expensive mode of publishing via an Article Database might be sufficient. (These might equally well take the form of upgraded IRs, of disciplinary repositories or of national archives; the argument between them is needless, there being opportunity for all.) I recognize the problem of a dual track publication system, and the inevitable pressure from academic administrators for articles to be published in the higher prestige system. Possibly there is no way of avoiding it except the Draconian one of changing _all_ publication to Article Databases. There is third the possibility that the higher cost publishers might approach the efficiencies of non-profit publishers. This will only happen libraries stop subscribing to high cost journals, even if they have a residual amount of use; this would compel them to either sharply reduce costs or become merely expensive vanity publishers in which articles may be published, but will not be read. The financial resources of some such publishers may permit them to continue even with almost no subscriptions, but even the richest privately owned ones cannot do this indefinitely. Unfortunately, there is good reason to fear that if any money is thus made available, some of the larger non-profit publishers will increase prices to absorb it; this has the potential to defeat any savings. For many years we have been saying that only a change in author behavior will change the system. I have given up on this happening. The pressures on academic authors are such that they will publish with no regard to the burden they are imposing. Libraries could have forced the change long ago, but have all considered themselves to be without the support of the faculty, who consistently have asked for more than can be afforded. To administrators libraries may have appeared as infinite sinks of money, but to the faculty they have appeared infinite sources. I have yet to see the faculty declaration of principles that is accompanied by the action it calls for. The real change seems to be occurring at the hand of government agencies; as they are the ultimate source of funds, this does unfortunately make sense. It does tie us to their agenda. If the NIH sees OA as a mere byproduct of their intent to republish journal articles to fit their administrative needs, they will do just that. David Goodman Associate Professor of Library and Information Science Long Island University dgoodman@liu.edu -----Original Message----- From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu on behalf of Jan Velterop Sent: Mon 5/9/2005 9:43 PM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Re: Berkeley faculty statement on scholarly publishing The recent exchanges on this list prompt me to make two points: a) It is unfortunate that much of the discussion about OA seems to be primarily about financial implications. They will undoubtedly be important to some, but the benefits of OA to science, and for at least some disciplines (such as the medical sciences) to society as a whole, rather transcend financial ones. Even if we assume that the aggregate cost to academia if all journals were OA is the same as it is now for the more traditional journal literature, we would not spend more, yet have the benefit of OA that we won't have in the traditional model. Indeed, one could argue that the benefits of OA might justify a higher aggregate cost. It is this focus on cost reduction that prevents many scholarly societies to even contemplate offering OA, as they fear erosion of their income. This is not good for science and scholarship. b) There is a problem with 'evidence-based' in this discussion. It is not primarily the problem that Anthony identifies with the absence of evidence-based literature about OA. It is with the fact that we are not dealing with some quasi natural phenomena that lend themselves to prediction on the basis of evidence, but rather with behavioural changes. The caveat of "past behaviour is no guarantee of future behaviour" must apply. As well as the caveat of being very careful when drawing conclusions from experiments with more than one variable (such as OA *and* being a new journal *and* having no Impact Factor). There have been precious few experiments with just one variable which could be regarded as 'evidence-based'. The Nucleic Acids Research one comes to mind as a most credible one, being an established title, with an Impact Factor, now offering OA, and that can be interpreted as a success for OA (see http://www3.oup.co.uk/nar/special/14/ default.html). Jan Velterop
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