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RE: Owner of Dewey Decimal System Sues Library-Themed Hotel
- To: "'Rick Anderson '" <rickand@unr.edu>, "'liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu '" <liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu>
- Subject: RE: Owner of Dewey Decimal System Sues Library-Themed Hotel
- From: "Hamaker, Chuck" <cahamake@email.uncc.edu>
- Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:47:52 EDT
- Reply-to: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu
- Sender: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu
I agree with Rick. I guess we are all supposed to forget how the Dewey decimal system has been used, abused, sworn at and praised for over 100 years. In classes, at work, cribbed with Sears, etc. Used for cross-walks if I recall correctly-- (sounds like money for consultants as well as lawyers to me) Explained ad-infinitum in library instruction guides, illustrated in fill in the blank workbooks, maps, schematics, etc. And since when do they charge libraries everytime they classify a book, Is there some kind of policing unit finding out if every dewey classed book was classed using an approved copy-or even current copy? sheesh. Or that it wasn't just classed because someone did it from memory. I mean we are talking about something that until the 1980's was the lifeblood of almost every professional librarian. We thought in it, we dreamed or had nightmares in it, we explained it with homemade charts in BI sessions, sheesh..We mapped where the dewey's would go when they were reclassed to LC, and published such guides and studies, we have ALA's great North American Title Shelf List Counts with conversion tables. Is OCLC now claiming they own all rights for those conversion tables. I mean, Dewey was a langauge, a math, a geography. When computerized catalogs looked like they were on the way, librarians in Dewey libraries explained how you could really find those books without a catalog anyway...that's a language and way of thinking, not something that is owned by some entity. If OCLC wins do they get to tell everyone who puts out a "dewey scheme" or outline to destroy it? I know I'm not the only MLS student who was taught to "walk" through the universe of recorded knowledge through the Dewey scheme. This case just makes librarians and their organizations look dumb and dumber. in my humble but probably dumb and misguided opinion. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Rick Anderson To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Sent: 9/25/03 7:39 PM Subject: RE: Owner of Dewey Decimal System Sues Library-Themed Hotel > The reason OCLC is filing against the Library Hotel is to protect their > copyright status with regard to the Dewey Decimal System. If they do not > challenge this unauthorized use, others with more malicious intent could > challenge their copyright status. OCLC has offered to negotiate with the > Library Hotel over this matter and they refuse. What I keep wondering is how OCLC can claim the DDS as a functional trademark when so many organizations (i.e. libraries) use it freely without any acknowledgment of OCLC whatsoever. It seems to me that if I were to go around selling facial tissue and calling it Kleenex, the Kimberly-Clark Corporation would have a clear trademark case against me -- unless it had been permitting other people to do the same thing for fifty years, in which case a judge would laugh at them for suddenly deciding to bring suit against me. Isn't that the situation OCLC finds itself in now? If so, that would explain why the Library Hotel wasn't interested in signing a document acknowledging OCLC's right to give (or, by implication, to deny) permission to use the DDS. It seems to me that they have a good chance of winning the court fight over the trademark issue; they'd be blowing the game early if they stipulated contractually that they're using the DDS by OCLC's good graces. Somebody who knows the law in these matter can probably put these questions to rest; I'm well out of my area of expertise. ------------- Rick Anderson rickand@unr.edu
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