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Re[2]: Science Online model and Princeton
- To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu, David Goodman <dgoodman@princeton.edu>
- Subject: Re[2]: Science Online model and Princeton
- From: mspinell@aaas.org (MSPINELL)
- Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 20:25:56 EST
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David, You appear to have decided what the price of Science Online SHOULD be based on a specious comparison between the print price of a single library subscription and the access price for an entire campus. The functionality and breadth of access of a site wide subscription to Science Online can in no way be duplicated by one print subscription to Science - or by 10 print subs, for that matter. In addition, the economics driving the pricing of Science are almost entirely different from the economic drivers of the It would be impossible to duplicate in print the ready access and research usefulness of Science Online. Nevertheless, if you were to try to duplicate only the accessibility, you would quickly recognize that Science Online's site-wide subscription prices are far less expensive than either the print or the workstation model, on a per user basis. Sometimes I've noticed that commentary on electronic publication pricing commits the error of only looking at the cost side of online publishing, and drawing the conclusion that all prices should be lower than print because the total cost of electronic publishing is assumed to be lower. EVEN granting the assumption (which many publishers wouldn't), it doesn't follow that the price for a buyer will be lower. If someone tells you they have a $1 million fixed cost base, what is the price of the product? Well, of course, it depends on how many buyers there are. The costs of print Science are widely distributed among three groups: a substantial number of libraries; a very large number of individual members; and a substantial base of advertisers. As a result of the diverse base of buyers, all the buyers enjoy a pretty modest price for obtaining the value they seek from Science. Science Online is different. In many ways, it supplies more value than print (searchability; back copy access; immediacy of delivery; breadth of access); in some ways it supplies less (no archive; not easily portable). I certainly want to suggest that pricing is related to value for Science Online, and should be for any product. However, the far more significant driver of the institutional site-wide pricing we offer is our assessment of the likely size of the market. No matter what the cost to produce, the price-setting question cannot be answered without a theory about how many buyers there will be to distribute those costs among. Even if Science Online eventually garners more users than the print journal (which it might), it seems most probable at this point that it will have many fewer buyers. No library needs two site-wide subscriptions. And once a site-wide subscription is purchased, why would any individuals at that site purchase personal access? It is - unlike the print product - identical in utility regardless of whether your library buys it or you pay for it personally. In print, personal copies still bring significant added value above the library copy, due to convenience, timeliness, collectability, etc. Not so for the Online journal. As for advertising, our business staff has been aggressively marketing Science Online to advertisers, and we have enjoyed considerable success, compared to similar online products. But so far, advertising on Science Online (or for that matter, all online products) is a minuscule portion of advertising in print. It doesn't come close to covering the additional costs of producing Science Online. Furthermore, there is some concern that advertisers who venture online will merely reallocate money from print products, which, of course, ultimately doesn't help with covering new costs. I know you don't like the workstation model. As I've said many times: it wasn't really meant for your kind of institution. I also know that the economics of Science Online are not going to be easy on the budgets of librarians in general. I am sympathetic, but I can't make it different by wishing it so - and neither can you by making ill-conceived comparisons to our print pricing. I have mentioned before that we remain open to changing the price should our economic picture look different as we move forward. Right now, we are very optimistic about meeting our sales goals for 1999, but in truth it is too early to tell, and I honestly doubt we'll discover that the market is much larger than we have estimated. Believe me, I'd love to be wrong on this one, and be able to 'eat crow' by announcing a price decrease because we sold so many more than we expected! We're actively looking at other ways to reduce prices for Science Online, including consortial buying, print/online package deals, and even other forms of limited access (for example, pay-per-view access will be introduced this month). In the short run, consortial buying seems to offer the most promise. When a consortium approaches me, I try to view them as representing a larger segment of the market than I would have otherwise sold, and so I can adjust pricing as if we were reaching a larger market. This is especially beneficial when the consortium has a strong mix of smaller institutions, because smaller organizations are the most disadvantaged by our current pricing structure and these are the organizations we mainly aren't expecting to purchase site-wide subscriptions. What I have found is that I can almost always offer significant savings (vs. our list prices) to consortium members, unless the consortium consists entirely of gigantic institutions. However, from anything I can see right now, the hope of bringing these prices down by `an order of magnitude' is not likely to be achievable, even with consortial buying. Stayed tuned. I want Princeton and all the rest of you to be able to obtain Science Online for your communities. I believe our current pricing is fair and reasonable, given what we know -- but I'm not attached to it. If we can do better, while maintaining the income we need to provide this top quality product, we will. Mike Spinella ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Science Online model and Princeton Author: David Goodman <dgoodman@Princeton.EDU> at Internet Date: 12/1/98 4:55 PM Since Mike Spinella mentioned Princeton as an adopter of their workstation licensing, I'd better explain our logic. No one here thinks this is a good model, for all the reasons that have been stated on this list. Princeton would much rather have a campus license if it were obtainable at what we consider a reasonable price. The institutional price of Science this year is $295, and the campus license for an institution Princeton's size would be $3500. Because of the importance of this title, we decided to purchase the $25 add-on to each of our 10 print subscriptions, and the journals is available on one designated computer in each of our relevant branch libraries, where it receives significant use. I do not think of this 8% additional price as an "economy model": I think of it as a not very satisfactory compromise to meet an unfortunate pricing policy. If the publisher feels compelled to charge non-affordable prices for a campus license, it may be better that the publisher offer an alternative than no alternative at all. I do not know what we would consider the maximum acceptable price for a campus license. In my personal view, it would be about an order of magnitude less than the publisher's current price. Though I am stating the consensus of our science selectors' decisions, the interpretation is of course only my personal view. -- David Goodman Biology Librarian, Princeton University Library dgoodman@princeton.edu http://www.princeton.edu/~biolib/ phone: 609-258-3235 fax: 609-258-2627
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