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ICOLC#4/netLibrary.com
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- Subject: ICOLC#4/netLibrary.com
- From: Ann Okerson <ann.okerson@yale.edu>
- Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:34:03 -0400 (EDT)
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I thought that perhaps some readers of liblicense-l would be interested in this "new product" report that was presented to a group of consortial (ICOLC - International Coalition of Library Consortia) leaders in Denver a week or so ago. The product seems to concentrate on developing monographs online and attempts to be library friendly in so doing. Would be interested in comments, reactions. Ann Okerson Ann.Okerson@yale.edu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 11:08:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Ann Okerson <ann.okerson@yale.edu> To: consort@ohiolink.edu, Northeast Research Libraries Consortium <nerl-l@lists.yale.edu> Subject: ICOLC#4/netLibrary.com This was a fascinating presentation, featuring a service unlike that offered by any other ICOLC vendor presentations. Alan Charnes of the Colorado Alliance (CARL) was instrumental in bringing the presentation to the meeting, because CARL has been working with netLibrary.com as a partner and advisor in developing the service. In short, netLibrary.com aims to build a wide-ranging electronic library containing numerous and diverse books (initially scholarly?) and reference works. The extensive technical development work is aimed at replicating the features of today's library online, while offering materials more cost-effectively. The netLibrary folks have clearly listened to their library advisors and seem to understand a great many contemporary problems and issues that libraries are grappling with (costs, space, etc.). netLibrary will be commercially available in 2/99. In the end, there was a sense from the audience that - This has been an energizing presentation and netLibrary is a most interesting endeavor with a lot of potential. - Content is a more complicated matter than perhaps the developers realize.. - The pricing looks good but there is some concern that, as currently defined, it will not sustain the service over time. - netLibrary might need to divorce self from old print/library metaphors (though this is also an intriguing part of the system and perhaps its strength). - netLibrary can work with single libraries, consortia, or even multi-consortia in flexible and potentially exciting ways. For more information: Brian J. Stern General Manager, Higher Education bstern@netlibrary.com ____________________ netLibrary.com, by Interactive Knowledge, Inc. The presentation was delivered by Tim Schiewe, the founder and CEO. Mr. Schiewe is a former banker (his specialty was assessing, for the Bank of America, the amount of loan defaults from underdeveloped nations). In the course of this work he was responsible for crafting a sophisticated audit program that threw him into software development and partnerships. He began the presentation with a longish story about this past history, along with his interactions with notables such as Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. These personal stories were an entertaining way to open the presentation. Several slides were devoted to the evolution of the current netLibrary concept, which was developed in 1/97 and added CARL as a partner in 9/97. Key goals of netLibrary: - Replicate the current library system in an online format. - Publish on the net and protect the publisher as well or better than in the traditional environment. This is done initially by: - Taking a hardbound book - Keying it in (double-keying) if no machine-readable copy is given by publisher. - Putting it then into a standard format - Plugging in a search engine - Running it through proprietary software to protect it It then becomes possible to: - Search everything at once - Take advantage of the "multimedia layer" around the e-book - Using a "file drawer" metaphor, the reader can put things in drawers (media, audio, images, etc.) - The reader can retrieve any of these, i.e., "bring books to life" with multimedia The software has been developed to mimic today's working library, for example: - If the reader tries to check out a book, it's shown as checked out - Software produces a report for librarian (what is being accessed, read, which parts of it) which the librarian can use buy extra copies of popular books -- or tailor acquisitions or services as needed. - If the library desires a limited circ period (i.e., 1 hour), the book checks itself self back in after the requisite period and the reader's copy is disabled. - The reader can annotate book online. Can save notes, send them, put them back onto book if s/he checks out the book again. - In short, if the library has "one copy" of a book, the transactions around that book are treated as a single copy. Only one copy can be in use at a given time and other readers have the option of queuing for it. This protects the publishers' income and intellectual property (unauthorized copying is also impossible, apparently). - There are a number of reader enhancements, for books transferred to the reader's computer. This total package comprises netLibrary.com It is about building books, gathering data about use, enriching reader's functionality. We will be able to look at this library online this coming Friday (10/9). 10,000 books (???) from Project Gutenberg will be available for experimentation, along with about 100 (?) university press books. A pricing schedule that offers discounts off the list price of the print equivalent of the books (assumption is that e- is charged at the same price as p-) was presented. Discounts are available for higher levels of purchase, i.e., purchasing 500 books (the minimum necessary for the system to ensure effective searching and cross-referencing) secures a 5% discount, where as purchasing 2500 and up secures a 30% discount. When one buys the book, one "owns it forever" (this I did not understand, as the books reside on a central server at netLibrary). Here the audience chimed in with questions about fair use. While the presenters seemed to understand fair use pretty well, one of the things that troubled me is that publishers set the definition of fair use for their books. Currently some publishers permit one page as fair use, but the system can permit whatever is chosen. This troubled me not a little, as I do not believe that producers set the definition of fair use, nor that there is a single "bright line" definition of it. For a useful explication of this, see an article by Pamela Samuelson in the April 1998 issue of Communications of the ACM, called "Encoding the Law Into Digital Libraries." Pam's point is that this is a complex matter and that by encoding user restrictions now we are jeopardizing law and public policy. Security matters: netLibrary is built with a high degree of privacy and security, esp. because the principals come out of the banking industry where security is key. For example, if a password is being used by two people at once, both are kicked off for an hour (presumably until the matter is resolved?). netLibrary can administer IP domains and passwords if the customer desires. A consortium to netLibrary means one contract, one billing point. Several consortia or alliances can get together and act as one customer. Questions: 1. Security -- An IP address is not secure. Can netLibrary provide other modes such as public key, etc? How is access given? -IP address is primarily used for "branding" (i.e., netLibrary can make the collection look like the customers, with its web design, links, logos). netLibrary will sit with each customer to determine systems needs vis a vis security. For example, CARL has 400,000 patrons. CARL authenticates these patrons (not netLibrary). CARL maintains a unified patron file thru work with individual libraries. netLibrary will work in a variety of different models. 2. Selection model - can libraries join together? - Yes. Libraries can join together not only as consortia but as various groups of self-selected libraries. 3. What rights do you have to what sorts of materials at this time? - netLibrary began its negotiations with university presses. Current permissions include some MIT books and others. Talks are ongoing with Princeton, Chicago, etc. The key question is: what are the right books to put up first? netLibrary is interested in the views of its customers and offers the opportunity to serve on a library advisory board. 4. It is common knowledge that people will not read books on a CRT. How many books have *you* read online? Technology not the key worry; using it effectively, however, is. - It is true that people do not now wish to read whole books online. Therefore, reference books are going up first. Will make deals with providers such as RocketBooks, PalmPilot (via partnership) so users will be able to unload electronic books to your own computer and read more easily. (Remaining question: what are reference books, by this definition?) 5. Buying a book may be an antiquated concept in the e-environment. What netLibrary seems to offer is one or more Simultaneous Users for each book -- thus, the "buying" metaphor is antiquated. This presentation describes many new possibilities but it is weighed down with old metaphors. - The old metaphors offer a lot of functionality and are easy to understand; there is a lot of value in traditional libraries. But the service will evolve over time. 6. The pricing seems low for perpetual access to these books. The audience accordingly asked questions about sustainability/affordability. - netLibrary is talking with many prospective commercial partners, for example Oracle, Proctor & Gamble, etc., about building "wings" of this new "library", i.e., Oracle might conceivably sponsor a "technical wing." Thus all the books in it would be subsidized for users and the corporate sponsorship would sustain the services to some extent. netLibrary intends to be in business for a long time. 7. Reference works go out of date. Our consortium would rather buy access to the newest reference works all the time. Can this service be integrated with our library catalog? - The content needs to be defined by the library community. - All books come with MARC records; netLibrary will make sure it integrates into your system. 8. Is this one-time purchase price (discounted) really the whole, entire price? -When you (the library or consortium) buy the book you own it. No other fees are attached. Some reports are free (the popular book report); other more sophisticated ones will be charged for. 9. What will the lag time be between expressing demand and seeing a book in the service? - Probably very little. 10. Will the software and content be available only on netLibrary servers or an they replicated on customer's site? Libraries can deliver content more quickly -- perhaps. - Currently, the only architecture developed is for the netLibrary sites. It involves an high-security authentication process. Willing to discuss mounting on customer servers, though. Let's talk. 11. If the library "owns" the book, may it re-sell or give it to someone else? - Yes. It can also lend via ILL. 12. Can netLibrary hyperlink between books of various publishers? -YES. 13. Any other costs beyond buying these electronic-version books? - As above, there is a cost for the books and some reports (advanced reports). The current pricing list includes the use of the software by libraries and readers. 13. We are most interested in hard to get titles (OP, foreign, etc.). Do you have plans to expand beyond standard scholarly mainstream works? - We are working with some special collections and are interested in working with more. So, there is some move in that direction. Foreign language materials are a way off in the distance. ----end----
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