RE: Peggy Hoon on licenses

["Hoon, Peggy" <phoon@uncc.edu>]

Jill and Peter and everyone else,

Yes, I would agree that SERU was developed exactly to address 
this recurring situation.  If you read the origins of it and the 
meetings that went before, it appears that all stakeholders are 
not happy with the line-by-line negotiation.  I'm quite sure that 
all had good intentions but is it reflective of what is still 
currently going on in licensed resource acquisition?  In other 
words, aren't we still spending an inordinate amount of time 
rehabilitating license language.  Even those of you who say that 
you have had various successes getting acceptance of SERU or 
getting certain terms removed, still make my point.  You had to 
spend time - you had a good result - but you still expended time, 
which is a valuable commodity.  I don't know what it is going to 
take, but even some of those registered at SERU are offering some 
of the worst terms I've seen.

It's a shame.  Academia is on life-support, resources are being 
cancelled, people are being furloughed or losing their jobs and 
we're throwing away tax dollars fixing the same problems over and 
over.

Best, Peggy Hoon
Copyright Education Specialist
University of North Carolina at Charlotte
Intellectual Property Scholar
Center for Intellectual Property, UMUC


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu on behalf of Emery, Jill
Sent: Mon 2/21/2011 10:08 PM
To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu
Subject: RE: Peggy Hoon on licenses

Dear Peter,

Is SERU (Shared E-Resource Understanding): 
http://www.niso.org/workrooms/seru not a good alternative to "a 
standard reality-based library license."?

I'm had some relative success with getting smaller publishers and 
academic societies to accept SERU in place of a license 
agreement.

All the best,

Jill Emery
Head of Acquisitions
The University of Texas at Austin
UT Libraries
Austin, TX 78713
e: j.emery@austin.utexas.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu
[mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Peter B. Hirtle
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 7:25 PM
To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu
Subject: Peggy Hoon on licenses

Peggy Hoon has an important post on the current state of library 
licensing at

http://www-apps.umuc.edu/blog/collectanea/2011/02/running-in-circles-copyright-l.html

Entitled "Running In Circles: Copyright, Licensing, and the 
Educational Environment," Hoon notes that in spite of decades of 
work, "libraries are still slogging through, license by license, 
the same terms, over and over, that are either legally prohibited 
or reflect an unrealistic view of a university library 
environment."  She concludes that "there simply has to be a 
better way," and argues that we need to try again to create "a 
standard reality-based library license."

Peter B. Hirtle
Senior Policy Advisor
Digital Scholarship Services
Cornell University Library
Ithaca, NY  14853
peter.hirtle@cornell.edu