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RE: Terms subject to change
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- Subject: RE: Terms subject to change
- From: "SANLiC : Yvonne Halland" <sasli@cosalc.ac.za>
- Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:03:06 EST
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We have the same problem and are still battling to make them understand that there is no point in signing an agreement which has a clause that allows the vendor to change terms and conditions at will by merely sending an e-mail to the licensee. Will let you know of the outcome. Yvonne Halland SANLiC Manager fax2email : 086-570-9679 e. manager@sanlic.org.za http://www.sanlic.org.za/ 12 Botano Centre, 1285 Embankment Ave, Centurion, 0157 P O Box 11589, Centurion, 0046, South Africa -----Original Message----- From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu [mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Schwartz, Judy Sent: 21 December 2010 06:45 AM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: RE: Terms subject to change In March of 2009, I attended a Webinar whose presenter, Paul Wrynn, retired in 2008 from NYU's Health Sciences Libraries as Collection Development Librarian. Wrynn has over 30 years of experience in libraries, including significant experience managing electronic licenses. Here are some of the notes I took at the time, which might be helpful in this discussion. I am new to liblicense. "Your license agreement is a legal binding document; review it for risk/benefits. A really important caveat: if you agree to the limits in licensing documents, then 'fair use' does not apply! You want to establish reasonable ILL parameters within the license. The license protects the publisher(s) from abuse. Sometimes the license requires that you mail or FAX the article for ILL, not sending it electronically. There needs to be two signatories on the license: your own, in house and the vendor. Sometimes individual journal vendors present you with a "shrinkwrap" license - which can only be accepted or rejected, and there is no wiggle room. These are different than what you signed for in the license. When reviewing a license, and finding parts not acceptable: *Strike out what you don't agree with, mail it back and see what happens. *Contact the intermediary, once the intermediary hears from many libraries, they will (or should) more likely work on your behalf to change the terms. *If the intermediary is NOT helpful, run the other way. If you (director, eresources librarian, whomever) are expected to be the signatory, it should be written into your job description." Paul recommended two websites for further info: http://nnlm.gov/mar/rsdd/elicense.html; an especially useful title is the last one from UT: http://www.utsystem.edu/ogc/intellectualproperty/dbckfrm1.htm Judith K Schwartz Director of Library Services Trocaire College - the Mercy College of WNY Buffalo NY 14220-2094 http://library.trocaire.edu -----Original Message----- From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu [mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Anderson Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 11:16 PM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Re: Terms subject to change > Seems to me that a contract that can be modified at will by one > party isn't much of a contract. I'd say you're right, and in fact I'm not sure terms such as those you described in the default language would even be legally enforceable if it came down to that. However, if I were you I wouldn't take any chances -- I would walk away from a purchase rather than sign a license that doesn't bind both parties to a defined set of performances. I'm frankly amazed that a major publisher would insist on such language; I've encountered unilateral-alteration terms more than once, but I can't think of a single time that the publisher insisted on keeping it after its ridiculousness was pointed out. Just my $.02, Rick Anderson Assoc. Dir. for Scholarly Resources & Collections Marriott Library Univ. of Utah rick.anderson@utah.edu
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