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RE: Google Books
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- Subject: RE: Google Books
- From: Sandy Thatcher <sandy.thatcher@alumni.princeton.edu>
- Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 20:22:16 EST
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Anyone who has used the Apple bookstore will have encountered a similar lengthy click-on agreement. I actually was interested enough to read the entire agreement, all 35+ pages of it, but suspect that very few people do. It is one thing to agree to the terms of a very short non-negotiable agreement, such as one encounters frequently these days. I have to say I worry about agreeing to something so much more complicated. I know there has been some disagreement among courts about the legality of shrink-wrap contracts. I'm wondering if there has been similar judicial questioning of click-on agreements. Does anyone know? Sandy Thatcher >I was curious to use Google eBooks yesterday after the >announcement and so went through the motion of buying a book. I >got to the point where I was presented with the well-known "agree >to these terms" screen. Like most people, I pay no attention but >this time I was curious. > >I started clicking down to page through the terms. When I >started, I noticed that the progress bar barely moved, so I kept >clicking and clicking and clicking. I started counting clicks. My >intent was to count to the end but I just got tired and got >worried about the battery on my wireless mouse... > >Therefore based on my progress to the approximate half-way point, >my estimate is that if you wish to actually read the terms you're >agreeing to in buying a Google eBook, you will need to click >through about 500 times. Yes, 500. Occasionally, you will see >some Spanish and a little Chinese as you click by, but keep going >-- there is English all the way through and to the end. > >Admittedly, the default screen text size for the terms was fairly >small but it was the default and I saw no way to expand the text >box. > >Not sure what this says except that a lot of lawyers were clearly >involved. A lot of lawyers. I think it also says that it is >certainly not reasonable or expected that a rational, reasonable >user of Google eBooks who "agrees to the terms" will have any >idea or concept of what they are agreeing to. > >-- David Carlson -- Sanford G. Thatcher 8201 Edgewater Drive Frisco, TX 75034-5514 e-mail: sandy.thatcher@alumni.princeton.edu Phone: (214) 705-1939 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sanford.thatcher "If a book is worth reading, it is worth buying."-John Ruskin (1865) "The reason why so few good books are written is that so few people who can write know anything."-Walter Bagehot (1853)
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