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Re: French deal may break deadlock between Google and publishers

And what would Hachette do with copies that they could not use 
commercially? What would be the benefit to them?

Sandy Thatcher

At 8:32 PM -0500 11/30/10, Mary Murrell wrote:
>I haven't seen the agreement, but the press coverage (in the New
>York Times and the Bookseller) indicated that Google would give
>copies to Hachette (for non-commercial uses) and to the
>Bibliotheque Nationale de France.
>It's not clear where the books will come from -- US libraries?
>Hachette itself? -- or how many Google has *already* scanned.
>I also thought that publishers (US ones, at least) already had
>the option of submitting a list of ISBNs to Google that would
>then be excluded from their scanning, but perhaps I was mistaken.
>Mary Murrell
>>  If I'm reading this announcement correctly, what this arrangement
>>  does is what the Amended Google Settlement also does, as thus
>>  summarized from an official document about the AS:
>>>As Google first announced in September 2009, any book retailer
>>>-- Amazon, Barnes & Noble, local bookstores, or other retailers
>>>-- will be able to sell consumers online access to the
>>>out-of-print books covered by the settlement, including
>>>unclaimed books. Rightsholders will still receive 63% of the
>>>revenue, while retailers will keep the majority of the remaining
>>>37%. This provision has been explicitly written into the revised
>>>agreement as a Google obligation.
>>  I do not believe that this means Google will give its digital
>>  files to Hachette for Hachette to use in any way it pleases.
>>  That would indeed be a step beyond anything Google has agreed
>>  to do in the past.
>>  When Penn State Press approached Michigan about granting more
>>  use rights for the library's Google book files of Press books
>>  if Michigan would give the Press a copy of the files for its
>>  use, Michigan agreed but Google nixed the deal. Google has been
>>  very protective of its files, and I can't imagine that it
>>  really has backed away from that position.
>>  Does anyone on this list know what the arrangement with
>>  Hachette indeed entails in this respect?
>>  Sandy Thatcher