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Re: "Overlay Journals" Over Again...[submisison fee thread]

I agree with the concept of submission fees, and there are a few
journals making this charge (for example in West Africa).

However - will grant funders pay for submission fees? (or
restrict the funding to publication fees?) Pippa

Pippa Smart
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2009/7/3 Kiley ,Robert <r.kiley@wellcome.ac.uk>:

> Jan
> This idea of introducing a separate submission fee (to meet the
> costs of peer review) was discussed in a report published by the
> Wellcome Trust in 2004 (see:
> http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/stellent/groups/corporatesite/@policy_communications/documents/web_document/wtd003184.pdf)
> This report even suggested an average fee -- $175.00. I am not
> aware of any publisher that offers this service.
> "One consideration to minimize the disincentive effect of author
> charges is to consider a submission fee and a publication fee.
> Such two-part tariffs are common in other spheres and are used
> when the production of a product incurs high fixed costs and a
> variable cost, for example telephone tariffs and fuel tariffs
> typically operate in this way. In economic efficiency terms this
> is a sensible option for publishers. It will discourage
> unrealistic submissions and make it possible to reflect the
> 'true' cost of publication for any successful article. (see page
> 20)
> Robert
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu
> [mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Jan Velterop
> Sent: 02 July 2009 05:54
> To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: "Overlay Journals" Over Again...
> The situation is this:
> 1)researchers HAVE to publish and HAVE to have their publications
> peer-reviewed;
> 2)existing systems (OA-author-paid as well subscriptions) ONLY
> pay for PUBLISHED articles.
> So the real problem is this: in neither case is the organization
> of peer review per se paid for. Those who argue that it is, place
> the entire burden of cost exclusively on the PUBLISHED papers.
> What is needed is a system such as, say, your diving test. You
> pay for the test, whether you pass or not. Translated to
> publications, a fee at submission is what we need, for which
> peer-review is organized. And this fee should be non-refundable,
> whether the article is accepted for publication or not.
> Where is the courageous and/or visionary 'publisher' (just using
> a familiar term that should probably be changed into 'assessment
> organization' or pithier equivalent) who starts a system like
> that?
> Jan Velterop