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Re: Abundant information, libre open access and information literacy
- To: Klaus Graf <klausgraf@googlemail.com>
- Subject: Re: Abundant information, libre open access and information literacy
- From: richards1000@comcast.net
- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:58:44 EDT
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If I understand correctly (and please correct me if I'm wrong), in her post of March 26, Heather Morrison argued that in order for users to obtain the right to engage in data mining or "hand-creating review articles incorporating . . . the original articles," the publications that are the object of such data mining or "hand-creating" must be "free-to- reuse." It's unclear to me whether Heather Morrison intended this statement as an empirical assertion or a prescriptive assertion. Then, in a post of March 27, Sally Morris made an empirical assertion, that "'Free to Reuse' is NOT what is needed for text mining, etc - in fact such content doesn't even need to be free to access. What it does need, though, is rigorous structuring and adherence to standards (for both text and data)." I agree with Sally Morris's assertion, because (a) I am certain that many authors have created review articles by utilizing statutory, case law, or administrative law 'fair use' provisions, e.g., the fair use provisions of 17 U.S.C. sec. 107, that do not grant the right to freely reuse the copyrighted content (one can verify this by reading those articles and reading the applicable law); and (b) I am certain that many institutions and individuals have obtained the right to engage in data mining by the grant of licenses that did not convey the right to freely reuse the licensed content (one can verify this by examining the executed license agreements, or by observing such data mining that is governed by an implied license). Under U.S. law, a license is usually unnecessary for creation of a review article because such an article usually requires only the use of short excerpts of the original articles, and that use is generally permitted by the fair use statute. The blog post at http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/blogs/murrayrust/?p=1769 appears to make a number of prescriptive statements respecting access to publications and data. None of those statements appears to challenge Sally Morris's empirical assertion that data mining and the creation of review articles have been and continue to be enabled by legal provisions and licenses that do not convey the right to freely reuse copyrighted content. I honestly don't think that Sally Morris's empirical assertion can be refuted, because of the wealth of evidence supporting it. If Klaus Graf has empirical evidence to challenge that empirical assertion, what is it? The statements above do not constitute legal advice or legal representation. Robert C. Richards, Jr., J.D.*, M.S.L.I.S., M.A. Law Librarian & Legal Information Consultant Philadelphia, PA richards1000@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Klaus Graf" <klausgraf@googlemail.com> To: richards1000@comcast.net Cc: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu, sally@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:45:20 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Abundant information, libre open access and information literacy 2009/3/31 <richards1000@comcast.net>: > Klaus Graf: > > I don't understand your argument. Would you please explain it? > Thank you. > > Robert Richards > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Klaus Graf" <klausgraf@googlemail.com> > To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 5:10:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: Abundant information, libre open access and information literacy > > 2009/3/27 Sally Morris (Morris Associates) <sally@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk>: > >> Heather, you have missed one point that I tried to make quite >> carefully. 'Free to Reuse' is NOT what is needed for text >> mining, etc - in fact such content doesn't even need to be free >> to access. > > This is wrong, see e.g. http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/blogs/murrayrust/ > > Klaus Graf See now: http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/blogs/murrayrust/?p=1769 "ANY barrier to access and re-use, however small and seemingly trivial COMPLETELY destroys public semantic data." Klaus Graf
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