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RE: Copyediting. Why not in-house?
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- Subject: RE: Copyediting. Why not in-house?
- From: Aline Soules <aline.soules@csueastbay.edu>
- Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:10:12 EDT
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As someone who does a fair amount of copy editing, both on the job and on the side, some points: What is "light" copy editing? Editor and author may not agree. I often find more adjustments than I originally envisioned, despite the tools you describe. Also, the text may or may not require minimal work, but regularly, I find the footnotes require extensive work and that work is not caught by spell-check, although it will be aided by EndNotes or its equivalent, if your campus has that available (ours can't afford it). Setting up footnotes involves knowing the intended publication and what is wanted, some of which may not be served by EndNotes as many publications have their own "quirks." The footnotes often require extensive reformatting and additional research to find the full bibliographic information which is frequently incomplete. Now that there are new rules emerging for electronic sources, I also find that the footnotes in papers are structured to be reflective of the original print medium and do not include the information reflecting the electronic sources. This is further complicated now by such things as the inclusion of the DOI (a new APA requirement), and so on. "Light" is not the word for this work. If you were to create a hierarchy of "light" vs. "heavier" editing, you would have to agree on the definitions up front, which would take some negotiation and your time - for which you would not be paid. It might also set up a less than cordial arrangement in the end, something that would likely impede the progress of the work. I would suggest that continuing with a standard rate for copy editing, without delving into these subjective definitions would be wiser. I know the rates you quote are valid; however, not everyone charges by the page; some charge by the hour, providing an estimate to the client of the anticipated time the item will take to copy edit. The editor will inform the client if the estimate is likely to change significantly and will do so as soon as that becomes apparent. It's a different model, but one that takes into account the differences in the amount of work from page to page. While some may find this too open-ended, it guarantees a per-hour rate that provides reasonable payment for work that enhances the author's submission. As a final note, if you bring this in-house, you might be flooded with work, once the word is out. You might also find, as I do, that many faculty in the institution all of a sudden expect this work to be done for free. It's supposed to be part of what the institution does to support them. I have run into this frequently - the attitude simply changes once it's in-house. If you can convince faculty to build this into their grants, enabling them to go out and hire someone, then it's no longer in-house and they are more accepting of the situation. Once it's in-house, though, look out. It's "just a quick once over," "shouldn't take any time, really," "isn't difficult work" (although they can't do it themselves), and other statements of the sort. YOu would have to set very strict parameters before you started. Aline Soules Cal State East Bay aline.soules@csueastbay.edu -----Original Message----- From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu on behalf of Heather Morrison Sent: Mon 3/31/2008 4:49 PM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Copyediting. Why not in-house? One of the services offered by publishers is copyediting. Correct grammar, spelling, etc., is important; but, wouldn't it make more sense to do this in-house? The rates for freelance copyeditors range from about $5 per page for light copyediting (one freelancer I found on the web this morning quotes $2 - $5 per page). Picture a highly proficient secretary or editor copyediting a manuscript that has been written carefully and gone through a grammar / spellcheck. Copyediting a page shouldn't take very long, should it? There are good reasons why peer review should be blind or double- blind. Not so copyediting. Having a copyeditor work directly with the author is much more efficient than working indirectly through a journal editor. A copyeditor who gets to know the author and their research will have more understanding of the topic matter, be less likely to make technical errors, and will be more respectful of the author's stylistic preferences. In addition to hiring freelancers, other options are creating jobs for students with subject expertise and good language skills, or secretaries. Perhaps the same staff could take responsibility for depositing the author's final manuscript in the appropriate open access archive(s)? The skills and experience such staff would develop would lend themselves well to providing additional help to the researcher, such as helping with the paperwork involved in grant applications, thus freeing up the researcher's time, for research. If copyediting is done in-house, it makes sense to me that publishers who charge for this service, should provide a discount. Copyediting does not always cost, of course. There are people who enjoy copyediting, and provide this service on a volunteer basis. Any opinion expressed in this e-mail is that of the author alone, and does not represent the opinion or policy of BC Electronic Library Network or Simon Fraser University Library. Heather Morrison, MLIS The Imaginary Journal of Poetic Economics http://poeticeconomics.blogspot.com
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