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Re: Fair use / fair dealing - a fantasy?
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- From: "Paul N. Courant" <pnc@umich.edu>
- Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 16:34:09 EDT
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I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding is that contracts trump law. There are certain rights you can't sign away by contract - you can't sell yourself into slavery, for example - but you can certainly sign away your rights to many things that would otherwise be lawful if you had not signed a contract. Fair use claims are plausibly on the list. Thus, I think that Sandy is exactly right on this point. I also note that the fact that something is ludicrous is hardly a proof that it doesn't exist. This is especially so with respect to intellectual property law. ------------------------- Paul N. Courant University Librarian and Dean of Libraries Harold T. Shapiro Collegiate Professor of Public Policy Professor of Economics and of Information The University of Michigan On 6/6/07 2:42 PM, "Sandy Thatcher" <sgt3@psu.edu> wrote: >>>Sandy Thatcher wrote: Most journal contracts I am familiar >>>with specify the transfer of "all rights." Such a transfer >>>means what it says, quite literally, and it is entirely >>>unnecessary therefore to include any specific waiver of fair >>>use rights. The very act of transferring all rights >>>effectively accomplishes that, and nothing more needs to be >>>added. Full post at: >>>http://www.library.yale.edu/~llicense/ListArchives/0706/msg00001.html >>> >>>If this were true, then for such works there is no fair use / >>>fair dealing - and never was! This is ludicrous! > > The conclusion doesn't follow: such a contract overrides any > "fair use" rights of the author signing the contract, but does > NOT eliminate anyone else from making "fair use" of the > author's essay. Anyone who thinks that an author signing an > "all rights" transfer has any residual "fair use" rights better > consult a lawyer before acting on them. As I said earlier, > since "fair use" is at best a very ambiguous guide to what one > can do in any given set of circumstances, publishers would be > crazy to let authors apply any interpretation of that concept > they wished because some would no doubt feel that "fair use" > gives them the right to distribute the final version of their > article to every one of their research colleagues throughout > the world through listservs and the like. >>> >>>Publisher/author agreements vary a great deal with respect to >>>transfer of rights. Agreements that give publishers rights to >>>publish, first publication, and often redistribution, but leave >>>all other rights in the hands of authors, are now common, as is >>>the use of Creative Commons licensing. > > Signing an agreement that transfers "all rights" does NOT mean > that authors are not allowed to do all sorts of things under > the agreement, including republishing the article in later work > by the author, posting some form of it in an institutional > repository, etc. I would bet that most journal contracts still > proceed by having the author transfer all rights, with the > contract then stipulating what range of activities the author > may legitimately pursue under the terms of the agreement. At > Penn State our policy does allow authors to post their > peer-reviewed (but pre-copyedited)articles on their own web > sites or their institution's, with no delay after publication, > thus qualifying us as a Green OA publisher, I suppose. >>> >>>Authors with options for quality publishing are well advised >>>to seek the publication route that leaves them their rights. >>>No wonder submissions at Hindawi are rising! > > Authors certainly should read contracts carefully and shop around if > they think there are viable alternatives that give them more of what > they feel they need. Hindawi is attractive, I suppose, because of its > Gold OA approach, which is fine as long as the money to support the > cost of publishing comes from somewhere. > >>>Any opinion expressed in this e-mail is that of the author alone, >>>and does not represent the opinion or policy of BC Electronic >>>Library Network or Simon Fraser University Library. >>> >>>Heather Morrison, MLIS > -- > Sanford G. Thatcher, Director > Penn State University Press > University Park, PA 16802-1003 > e-mail: sgt3@psu.edu
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