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Re: Fair use / fair dealing - a fantasy?
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- Subject: Re: Fair use / fair dealing - a fantasy?
- From: "Paul N. Courant" <pnc@umich.edu>
- Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 16:34:09 EDT
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I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding is that contracts trump
law. There are certain rights you can't sign away by contract -
you can't sell yourself into slavery, for example - but you can
certainly sign away your rights to many things that would
otherwise be lawful if you had not signed a contract. Fair use
claims are plausibly on the list. Thus, I think that Sandy is
exactly right on this point.
I also note that the fact that something is ludicrous is hardly a
proof that it doesn't exist. This is especially so with respect
to intellectual property law.
-------------------------
Paul N. Courant
University Librarian and Dean of Libraries
Harold T. Shapiro Collegiate Professor
of Public Policy
Professor of Economics and of Information
The University of Michigan
On 6/6/07 2:42 PM, "Sandy Thatcher" <sgt3@psu.edu> wrote:
>>>Sandy Thatcher wrote: Most journal contracts I am familiar
>>>with specify the transfer of "all rights." Such a transfer
>>>means what it says, quite literally, and it is entirely
>>>unnecessary therefore to include any specific waiver of fair
>>>use rights. The very act of transferring all rights
>>>effectively accomplishes that, and nothing more needs to be
>>>added. Full post at:
>>>http://www.library.yale.edu/~llicense/ListArchives/0706/msg00001.html
>>>
>>>If this were true, then for such works there is no fair use /
>>>fair dealing - and never was! This is ludicrous!
>
> The conclusion doesn't follow: such a contract overrides any
> "fair use" rights of the author signing the contract, but does
> NOT eliminate anyone else from making "fair use" of the
> author's essay. Anyone who thinks that an author signing an
> "all rights" transfer has any residual "fair use" rights better
> consult a lawyer before acting on them. As I said earlier,
> since "fair use" is at best a very ambiguous guide to what one
> can do in any given set of circumstances, publishers would be
> crazy to let authors apply any interpretation of that concept
> they wished because some would no doubt feel that "fair use"
> gives them the right to distribute the final version of their
> article to every one of their research colleagues throughout
> the world through listservs and the like.
>>>
>>>Publisher/author agreements vary a great deal with respect to
>>>transfer of rights. Agreements that give publishers rights to
>>>publish, first publication, and often redistribution, but leave
>>>all other rights in the hands of authors, are now common, as is
>>>the use of Creative Commons licensing.
>
> Signing an agreement that transfers "all rights" does NOT mean
> that authors are not allowed to do all sorts of things under
> the agreement, including republishing the article in later work
> by the author, posting some form of it in an institutional
> repository, etc. I would bet that most journal contracts still
> proceed by having the author transfer all rights, with the
> contract then stipulating what range of activities the author
> may legitimately pursue under the terms of the agreement. At
> Penn State our policy does allow authors to post their
> peer-reviewed (but pre-copyedited)articles on their own web
> sites or their institution's, with no delay after publication,
> thus qualifying us as a Green OA publisher, I suppose.
>>>
>>>Authors with options for quality publishing are well advised
>>>to seek the publication route that leaves them their rights.
>>>No wonder submissions at Hindawi are rising!
>
> Authors certainly should read contracts carefully and shop around if
> they think there are viable alternatives that give them more of what
> they feel they need. Hindawi is attractive, I suppose, because of its
> Gold OA approach, which is fine as long as the money to support the
> cost of publishing comes from somewhere.
>
>>>Any opinion expressed in this e-mail is that of the author alone,
>>>and does not represent the opinion or policy of BC Electronic
>>>Library Network or Simon Fraser University Library.
>>>
>>>Heather Morrison, MLIS
> --
> Sanford G. Thatcher, Director
> Penn State University Press
> University Park, PA 16802-1003
> e-mail: sgt3@psu.edu
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