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Summary of Responses to Licensing Negotiation Query
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- From: "Phillips, Kara" <Phillips@seattleu.edu>
- Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:51:05 EDT
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This message is cross posted to several list servs. I apologize for the duplication. A couple of weeks ago, in preparation for the WESTPAC conference (which was fabulous!) I posted the question below on several list servs: "I will be participating on a panel about licensing at the upcoming Westpac conference <HTTP://westpac.law.unlv.edu/> in sunny Las Vegas. It would be helpful if those on the list could provide their perspectives on the following: 1. Which license provisions are the easiest to negotiate and why? 2. Which license provisions are the most difficult to negotiate and why?" I want to thank everyone who responded. The responses were very helpful in preparing for the presentation. I have copied the summary of responses and bibliography into the text of this message below. Again, thanks to everyone for responding! Kara Phillips phillips@seattleu.edu ********************************************* Westpac Conference - Program B Games We Don't Want to Play: Negotiating Electronic Resource Contracts In September 2006, we polled several listservs to determine which licensing provisions and/or requests are the easiest to negotiate and which are the most difficult. What follows is a summary of responses: Terms/Requests Negotiability Rating Comments Access moderate "I have had trouble, also, with negotiating the type of access I need. I am not going to manage and pass out individual passwords...I want a single, simultaneous-user embedded login. The users should come to my centralized server and simply click a link to obtain access. Any password access is handled behind the scenes. Along with ease of use for my users, I don't see why vendors can't see the security factor of the access." Court library "IP address recognition is pretty standard so there are fewer licenses that talk about simultaneous users or user limits." Academic library Additional content: easy "For vendors that have a lot of content and sell access to various portions of it, additional content can be part of the bargaining process. For instance, a proposal of a certain amount of content at a certain price doesn't seem like a good value, but additional content at the same price might be." Firm library Authorized users: difficult "Many of the vendors want real tight control on users...They want you to identify all users, or potential users, and only provide access to those who will use it...I host most of our access on a centralized server. I can control which user groups have access to the application...but often I cannot tell you exactly which specific users will use it. I can only provide a rough estimate of number of users." Court library Authorized users - Walk-in: moderate "In a library that is open to the public, we have no control over walk-in-traffic. We always try to include on-site walk-up users as part of the authorized group, even when we know that it may be only a rare occurrence. We simply have no way to monitor it, and we don't want to be responsible for a violation. Most of the time when we explain that, it is not a problem, but occasionally it is." Academic library "Authorized users, including walk-ins, is normally fairly easy to negotiate; the wording in licenses these days is often very close to what we want." Academic library Cancellation: easy "I have also had good luck with several of the larger vendors in getting the clause about cancellation of service modified. We usually are able to have added language that allows us to cancel the agreement, without penalty, should our financial situation change suddenly. I have several multi-year contracts. I cannot control my budget year to year (that is done by the Legislature). A few times in the past our budget has been reduced by 50% or more from one year to the next. I need the ability to get out of the agreement when I truly have no money to pay and have no options for obtaining the money." Court library Competition: easy "It may seem slimy, but when there is more than one vendor for a specific service...I always let the reps know that I've been talking to the other guy and I have no shame about asking for an offer from one rep and then going back to the other rep and asking if they can beat that. One can go back and forth several times and get a pretty good deal before you hit the bottom of what they are willing to give." Firm library Confidentiality clauses: moderate "I have generally found the change in the non-disclosure clause to be the easiest. We are a public entity and I make it clear that we are subject to FOIA regardless of what the clause says. Usually I can get the language changed to read that we will not disclose unless required to under provisions of the law." Court library "The biggest sticking point, which we won, was the removal of the confidentiality clause. I couldn't figure out why [the publisher] was so adamant on that - we were paying their standard rate, no special prices...It is not like we "won" a lot from [the publisher] with our license that would weaken them for future agreements with others. Confidentiality is one clause that is a deal breaker for us." Academic library Course Packs/Electronic Reserves: moderate "Use of course packs and electronic reserves is a fairly big thing...we try to include these in the licenses we sign...about one fourth of the time, these provisions appear in an acceptable manner in a license; another one fourth of the time, they are dealt with but not completely to our satisfaction; the rest of the time, they are absent. When we try to get these uses added, about half the publishers are OK once we have described what we are referring to (non-commercial, term or course-length use) while the rest are not." Academic library Damages: difficult "Some of the boilerplate non-IP things, such as damages" are more difficult. Academic library ILL: moderate "The other item we got was an ILL clause for secure electronic transmitting." Academic library "The second [difficult] area is the use of the resource for interlibrary loan purposes-some vendors seem to assume that the ease of electronic transmission of files means that we will act differently than we do with print resources. It is hard to assure that we have the same safeguards in place." Academic library "We have had issues with various vendors wanting to be strict in their template language...more readily with regard to ILL." Consortium Indemnification: difficult "Mutual indemnification can also be a difficult thing to arrange. Some publishers provide this out-front in their licenses but others do not." Academic library "Changing the indemnification clauses to make it less severe for us" is difficult. Academic library "Indemnity clauses have proven to be the most difficult to negotiate. This is usually because the vendor is unwilling to accept the same risk as the purchaser. We have had vendors refuse to be willing to indemnify us if something goes wrong due to their gross negligence or willful misconduct. It's as if they are telling us that, though they can't guarantee that nothing like this will happen, but if it does, they're washing their hands of any responsibility. It makes my lawyers crazy." Corporate library Jurisdiction: moderate "Jurisdiction is also a hit-and-miss proposition. Ideally, we would like a Canadian jurisdiction and Canadian courts. Now and then, we get this, but most of the time, we have to go with other solutions. Sometimes going silent on jurisdiction will work, sometimes having a line that indicates jurisdiction based on who is bringing the complaint will work." Academic library "Choice of Law (state schools often cannot bow to another state's law - sometimes they delete the choice of law statement entirely (a less desirable option)." Academic library "One area that we rarely have trouble negotiating is in changing the governing law provision. We always propose a neutral state, such as New York or Delaware, and that is rarely an issue with our vendors." Corporate library "We appear to have passed the hurdle about venue with enough vendors understanding no state is going to relinquish their State's rights to another site (state or national government)." Consortium Multi-site licenses: difficult "Some vendors allot a few IP spaces, and if you exceed them, they give you a multi-site license, which multiplies your costs." Academic library Newer company: easy "It is much easier to work your concerns into an agreement with a newer company or one who is new with electronic publishing." County library Notification: easy "Changing the number of days for notification is usually easy to do as well (being in Canada, it is wise for us to add a few days, just to be on the safe side); crossing the border can add a few extra days for print mail." Academic library Patriot Act: difficult "Licenses emanating from American-based publishers or from non-US-based publishers that are subsidiaries of American companies increasingly feature clauses or wording that is influenced by the USA Patriot Act and/or rulings of the Office of Foreign Asset Controls (OFAC)...the wording appears more quietly in other licenses in the force majeure sections ("governmental restrictions"). As a library in another country, these sorts of clauses are not good for us (they can potentially force us to cut off service to students in certain parts of the world) so we always try to have the more prominent of them removed; we have yet to be successful in this." Academic library Perpetual access: difficult "An archival provision is also a troublesome thing to try to arrange. Again, some publishers provide this initially but others do not. For those that do not, it seems that no explanation will suffice (e.g. we don't want to end up with nothing at the end of the day, having paid good money for a product)...they are almost always unwilling to include archival access in their license." Academic library Pricing based on number of users: difficult "Vendors want to base price on the number of potential users. We have over 200 judges, referees, and magistrates. Of those, I know that about 1/3 or 1/2 will actually use the application at one point or another. To this, we add research clerks, staff attorneys, librarians and members of the clerk's office. I cannot and will not purchase based on a potential of 600+ users. I want to purchase based on the maximum number of users we anticipate may actually use the item at any given time (maybe 5 or 10 simultaneous) or...for the maximum number of users my server can simultaneously accommodate - 120. This can often be a sticking point. I understand their need to maximize their money earning potential but they have to realize that we are a government agency and cannot charge the clients more to meet their price." Court library Privacy: difficult "Privacy. Vendors seem to be frightened by a misperception. Perhaps...they are hiring newly-minted JDs who have had personal experience with misallocation or other misuse of resources. The corporate sector does not seem to understand the academic library; it certainly is a different type of entity to be sure! Many non-profit corporations are more readily amenable to a meeting of the minds on most points than for-profit corporations." Consortium Remote access: difficult "One of the most difficult is whether we can make a source available through the university's proxy server for off campus use." Academic library "Some vendors want to charge extra for remote access through a proxy server and many new reps do not understand the mechanics." Academic library Certifications required for state contracts: easy "These are anti-bribery, drug-free workplace, and other guarantees...they're required on ALL contracts with the State without exception, so I tell Vendors I don't have any discretion to modify them except to insert "to the best of Licensor's knowledge, Licensor certifies that...." Academic library Technical support: easy "For basic technical support...do you get it with the contract or do you pay for the service (I would balk at agreeing to pay for support as needed with most suppliers making it part of the package)." Firm library Third party use restrictions: moderate "We experience one other issue when we buy catalog records and have to sign a license agreement. There is always a "no third-party use" clause or something like that, and we always have to explain that we are part of a consortium of 8 libraries so our catalog records are part of a consortial OPAC. It is usually not a problem when we explain the situation, but it is like the vendors have not thought about that possibility even though it must be fairly common." Academic library Training: easy "Most vendors will offer unlimited training at no additional charge with a good flat-fee contract. One should be prepared to ask about such perks." Firm library Usage tracking: easy "I do like individual logins so that usage can be tracked and hopefully billed to clients...some services just have to be pay-as-you-go- good tracking is very, very necessary in that case." Firm library **** Westpac Conference - Program B: Games We Don't Want to Play: Negotiating Electronic Resources Contracts Online Resources on Electronic Licensing (by topic) BIBLIOGRAPHIES Bibliography of Licensing Sources by LIBLICENSE <http://www.library.yale.edu/~llicense/bibliogr.shtml> Annotated bibliography of articles, books, online resources. CONSORTIA Collaborative Acquisition of Electronic Resources by Tracy Thompson in the CRIV Sheet (May 2005) pp. 4-6 <http://www.aallnet.org/products/pub_sp0505/pub_sp0505_CRIV.pdf> Discusses NELLCO's process in licensing electronic legal resources for consortial members. Libraries on the Web USA Consortia <http://lists.webjunction.org/libweb/usa-consortia> Lists library consortia in the United States with links to their Web sites. Participating Consortia of the International Coalition of Library Consortia <http://www.library.yale.edu/consortia/icolcmembers.html> Lists international consortia with descriptions and contact information. COURSES Copyrightlaw.com, seminars and workshops taught by Lesley Ellen Harris <http://copyrightlaws.com/index2.html> Courses regularly offered cover licensing and copyright. Some are available online. GENERAL OVERVIEW: Licensing Electronic Resources: Strategic and Practical Considerations for Signing Electronic Information Delivery Agreements by Patricia Brennan, Karen Hersey, and Georgia Harper <http://www.arl.org/scomm/licensing/licbooklet.html> Excellent overview of what issues to consider and questions to ask when licensing electronic products. The table on copyright issues is a great checklist. MODEL/EXAMPLE LICENSES Are Model Licenses the Answer? by Lesley Ellen Harris <http://www.copyrightlaws.com/index2.html> Analyzes the pros and cons of using a model license and provides suggestions on how to use them appropriately. LIBLICENSE Standard Licensing Agreement (2001) by the Council on Library and Information Resources, the Digital Library Federation and Yale University Library <http://www.library.yale.edu/~llicense/modlic.shtml> Choose from the short form license agreement or the longer version. Licenses Provided by Publishers by LIBLICENSE <http://www.library.yale.edu/~llicense/publishers.shtml> Selected publishers provide links to their actual license agreements. Legal publishers need to contribute to the list! Model Standard Licenses for Use by Publishers, Librarians and Subscription Agents for Electronic Resources (2000) developed by publishing consultant John Cox <http://www.licensingmodels.com/> Choose from licenses for single academic institutions, academic consortia, public libraries, and corporate/special libraries. NELLCO License (2004) <http://www.nellco.org/nellcolicense.pdf> Comprehensive license covering all the necessary provisions. NEGOTIATION How to Be a Better Negotiator by Lesley Ellen Harris <http://www.copyrightlaws.com/index2.html> What licensees should keep in mind during the negotiation process. Provides a handy checklist at the end of the article. Licensing Perspectives: The Library View by Ann Okerson <http://www.library.yale.edu/~okerson/cni-license.html> Good overview of how to license and which terms to license. PRINCIPLES Licensing Principles (2001) by International Federation of Library Associations and Institutions (IFLA) <http://www.ifla.org/V/ebpb/copy.htm> Principles for Licensing Electronic Resources by AALL, <http://www.aallnet.org/committee/reports/LicensingPrinciplesElecResourc es.pdf> Drafted to assist librarians in licensing electronic products by providing detailed principles and to educate legal vendors of electronic licensing issues. Principles for Acquiring and Licensing Information in Digital Formats (2006) by University of California Libraries <http://libraries.universityofcalifornia.edu/cdc/principlesforacquiring. html> Discusses open access, publishing models, copyright, licensing, preservation, and statistics. Also provides a link to a useful checklist for licensing provisions: <http://www.cdlib.org/vendors/checklist.html>. Statement of Current, Perspective and Preferred Practices for Selection and Purchase of Electronic Information (2004) International Coalition of Library Consortia <http://www.library.yale.edu/consortia/2004currentpractices.htm> Lists several preferred practices for purchasing electronic information including permanent access, development of usage data, elimination of no-print cancellation clauses and nondisclosure agreements. TERMS Definitions of Words and Phrases Commonly Found in Licensing Agreements <http://www.library.yale.edu/~llicense/definiti.shtml> Provides definitions to difficult terms like "Public Access Workstation," "Terminal" and "Remote Access." A great resource when trying to draft specific clauses or definitions in a license agreement. Getting What You Bargained For - Essential Terms Every Librarian Should Include in a Licensing Agreement by Lesley Ellen Harris <http://www.copyrightlaws.com/index2.html> Covers the essential clauses in a license agreement and provides commentary on typical issues and questions needing clarification. Glossary of License Terms: De-mystifying the Licensing of Electronic Resources by Trisha L. Davis <http://www.arl.org/scomm/licensing/glossary.html> Defines common jargon found in license agreements. Licensing Terms by LIBLICENSE <http://www.library.yale.edu/~llicense/table.shtml> Covers common clauses and provides examples of good and bad terminology. Undesirable/Unacceptable Terms by Northwestern University Library <http://staffweb.library.northwestern.edu/cm/erlAppendixA.html> Review these terms carefully so that you can spot them in a license agreement. PRINT ARTICLES ON ELECTRONIC LICENSING Tony Horava, Access Policies and Licensing Issues in Research Libraries, 24 Collection Building 9 (2005). Ellen Finnie Duranceau, After the License is Signed: Collaboration to Resolve License Breaches, 48 Serials Librarian 339 (2005). Lesley Ellen Harris, Digital Licensing Questions, Information Outlook, June 2005, at 62. Jill Emery, Is Our Best Good Enough? Educating End-Users about Licensing Terms, 42 no.3/4 Journal of Library Administration 27 (2005). Tracy Thompson, Library Consortia in the 21st Century: Beyond the Buying Club 15 Trends in Law Library Management and Technology 1 (2004). Jeffrey C. Carrico, Licensed to ILL: A Beginning Guide to Negotiating E-Resources Licenses to Permit Resource Sharing, 40 no. 1/2 Journal of Library Administration 41 (2004). Anna May Wyatt, Licenses, the Law and Libraries, 42 no. 3/4 Journal of Library Administration 163 (2005). Laura Kane McElfresh, Licensing of E-Resources: Easing the Flow, Technicalities, May/June 2006, at 1. George Pike, Licenses Under Wrap, Information Today, October 2005, at 17. Duncan E. Alford, Negotiating and Analyzing Electronic License Agreements, 94 Law Library Journal 621 (2002). Jim Stemper and Susan Barribeau, Perpetual Access to Electronic Journals: A Survey of One Academic Research Library's Licenses, Library Resources & Technical Services, April 2006, at 91. Stephen Bosch, Using Model Licenses, 42. no. 3/4 Journal of Library Administration 65 (2005) <javascript:void%200;> . BOOKS ON ELECTRONIC LICENSING Stephen Bosch, Patricia Promis & Chris Sugnet, Guide to Licensing and Acquiring Electronic Information, Scarecrow Press (2005). Arlene Bielefield and Lawrence Cheeseman, Interpreting and Negotiating Licensing Agreements: A Guidebook for the Library, Research and Teaching Professions, Neal-Schuman Publishers (1999). Licensing and Copyright Management: Best Practices of Academic, Special and Research Libraries, Primary Research Group (2004). Lesley Ellen Harris, Licensing Digital Content: A Practical Guide for Librarians, ALA (2002). Karen Rupp-Serrano, Licensing in Libraries: Practical and Ethical Aspects, Haworth Information Press (2005). Audrey Fenner, Managing Digital Resources in Libraries, Haworth Information Press (2004). Fiona Durrant, Negotiating Licenses for Digital Resources, Facet (2006). ####
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