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RE: NYT on Cornyn-Lieberman
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- From: <Toby.GREEN@oecd.org>
- Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 20:13:07 EDT
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I sometimes think that Lisa's right - let authors post their manuscripts wherever they want. The only problem is that I think I've seen this future and from the feedback I've received from librarians, it doesn't seem to work very well. Why do I think this? Let me tell you a story (for which, if you've heard it before, I apologise). The story concerns the OECD's working papers. They are loaded, by authors, onto the OECD's website and are freely available. So, if this model is so great, why did a room full of about 200 librarians tease me about how terrible it was to access them? In fact, the level of criticism we received from librarians and readers over a period of years prompted us to do something about it. This 'something' was a project that: firstly identified all OECD working papers (we initially thought there were five series, in fact we found 11 - and we work in the same organisation as the authors, no wonder librarians were finding it difficult); then captured each paper's metadata into a database (and tidied up a lot of inconsistences in the series numbering used by authors); then built a website (as part of our online library) into which all the metadata and papers were posted so they could be found easily. We added DOIs to each paper (so readers can cite them with confidence); we gave each series an ISSN so librarians can catalogue them. We also built an export engine to push all the papers onto Repec (an "ArXiv" for economists) - previously few of our authors were bothered to post their papers onto this site. In early 2007 we'll add new features: the references will link out via CrossRef and we'll provide a tool to allow readers to export citations to EndNotes and RefWorks. It has cost us around $80,000 to do all this work (there are about 1,000 papers altogether), mainly because, as Lisa says, our staff need to be paid and get health care. By the way, before anyone gets worried, this story does have some happy endings: the papers are still freely available, and they can remain so while we're earning sufficient revenues from our e-library to be able to absorb the ongoing costs; more papers are now being downloaded than before, so we feel justified in having made the investment; and, perhaps best of all from my personal persective, librarians are no longer teasing me about our working papers! Toby Green OECD Publishing -----Original Message----- From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu [mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Lisa Dittrich Sent: 11 May, 2006 3:00 AM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: RE: NYT on Cornyn-Lieberman If the research should be free to all, then simply make it available, sans review, editing, etc., to the public on some publicly available Web site. THAT is the solution. What we "publishing hacks"--or, correction, this particular hack--objects to is having to give away work to which I and my staff have SUBSTANTIVELY contributed. In essence, it no longer belongs solely to the researcher or his/her funder, and no one, including the public, has paid any of the costs of what I and my staff have contributed. I am not being greedy--our journal is not a profit maker. I simply want our work to be appropriately compensated (not to mention simply ACKNOWLEDGED--this proposed legislation, and its many proponents, act as if publishers add no value at all, or at least nothing that cannot be recouped in six months time). The journal's staff, a fine group of people who require reasonable salaries, health care, etc., work hard to ensure that mss. are properly tracked, reviewed, and substantively edited (which means ensuring that authors' mistakes, bad writing, etc., are corrected). Our authors pay us no fees. Our subscription prices are low. You could argue that we should cut most of our staff and do none of these things. Fine. Then you are back to my plan of simply posting results on a Web site. Authors can't have it both ways. Either you want what publishers offer--for which you must compensate us--or you don't. I actually hope that an opposite push comes, and journals stop accepting mss. from government funded authors (a dream, I know). Let Varmus's original plan be put in place, and let's have a non-vetted Web site of research results, free to all. This seems really to be the goal. I personally have no problem with it--let's just be honest about our intentions and real about the consequences of whatever approach we choose! Lisa Dittrich Managing Editor Academic Medicine Washington, D.C. 20037 www.academicmedicine.org
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