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Re: Does the arXiv lead to higher citations and reduced publisher dowloads?
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- Subject: Re: Does the arXiv lead to higher citations and reduced publisher dowloads?
- From: "Peter Banks" <PBanks@diabetes.org>
- Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:41:55 EST
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I am unsure what type of "wishful thinking" I am alleged to have
engaged in. Our journals Diabetes Care and Diabetes are freely
available after 3 months, and papers accepted in the journals may
be posted on acceptance in any institutional repository--making
them, at least by Stevan's own criteria, open access. Thus I have
no interest in disproving -- and, in fact, an interest in proving
-- an open access advantage. As I said, I think it exists, but
doubt that some of the data supporting it is of sufficient rigor
to accurately measure its magnitude.
For example, Stevan suggests that Antelman's data and that of his
colleagues "show the same thing." Actually, they don't. The
Antelman data show an OA advantage that is quite modest, if it
exists at all; the Harnad data show one that is quite large in
some disciplines. When I was in graduate school, it was expected
that one would try to explain a magnitude of order difference
between one's own data and those of another investigator, not to
paper over the differences and call it a day simply because they
trended the same way.
It would help to see not only the relative increase in citation
through OA, but also the absolute increase. What does a 100% or
200% increase represent? If it's an increase from 0.1 average
citations per paper to 0.2 or 0.3, the effect on the
dissemination of knowledge is much less significant than if one
is speaking of an increase from 2 citations to 4 or 6. Because
very few papers have even one citation, I suspect we're talking
much more about the former case than the latter.
Peter Banks
Publisher
American Diabetes Association
Email: pbanks@diabetes.org
>>> harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk 03/22/06 8:14 PM >>>
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006, Peter Banks wrote:
> [Re: Kristin Antelman's findings] I... suspect that there is a
> small OA citation advantage, I am not convinced by these
> data... I doubt that most of the results reach statistical
> significance...
Based on past postings from Peter, I think there may be an
element of wishful thinking here (ex officio)! Peter, if you are
not convinced by KA's data alone, look at all the other data that
shows the same thing. For example, see Figure 4 in:
Hajjem, C., Harnad, S. and Gingras, Y. (2005) Ten-Year
Cross-Disciplinary Comparison of the Growth of Open Access and How
it Increases Research Citation Impact. IEEE Data Engineering Bulletin
28(4) pp. 39-47. http://eprints.ecs.soton.ac.uk/11688/
You will see that the ratio of the proportion of OA articles to
non-OA articles peaks in the 4-7 citation range, and falls off
for higher and lower citation (quality) ranges. But it is always
greater than one (i.e., an OA Advantage) except for articles with
zero citations (where the ratio reverses); that of course is also
the largest number of articles.
But this effect is again just a correlation, and is just as
compatible with a Quality self-selection Bias (QB) as with a
Quality Advantage (QA) (except that it is hard to see why
self-selection QB should peak at the 4-7 range, whereas it's
perhaps less difficult to see how a QA advantage could have
inverted U-shape, absent for the duds and trivial for the gems --
but this awaits more confirmatory data and ways of testing
causality more directly.
> I also don't understand how these data exclude Phil's
> hypothesis. Since Kristin seems to define quality in terms of
> citations, then the logic seems self-referential: how would one
> detect a difference in citation due to intrinsic quality when
> one has defined quality as number of citations?
You're quite right, except that that argument cuts in both
directions: No data to date can decide directly between QA and
QB.
Stevan Harnad
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