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RE: NIH as publisher
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- Subject: RE: NIH as publisher
- From: "David Prosser" <david.prosser@bodley.ox.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 23:39:08 EDT
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Sorry, Joe, but I can't see what is so stunning about NIH's actions. Funding bodies have been compiling databases of useful information for researchers for years. A classic example is Medline and PubMed - databases of abstracts that enable knowledge discovery. More recent examples include gene sequence and protein structure databases. These databases do not contain the results from just one funder, but from all, so making them more useful. Why is it acceptable for NIH to spend millions of dollars on labs, researchers, chemicals, etc. in order to further research, but not to spend money ordering the results of research in such ways that make further research more profitable? Why should NIH be allowed to fund a mass spectrometer but not PubChem? Both are valuable research tools. What is stunning to me is the idea that the NIH (or any public funding body) should limit its actions in supporting research to appease commercial interests. If it is a choice between a funding body fulfilling its mission or maintaining publishing revenues are you suggesting that commercial considerations should always come first? You might be interested in the views of a researcher on this. I'm appending a note from Rich Roberts (Nobel laureate in Physiology or Medicine) which was posted to the SPARC Open Access Forum by Peter Suber. David David C Prosser PhD Director SPARC Europe E-mail: david.prosser@bodley.ox.ac.uk [Forwarding from Richard J. Roberts, winner of the 1993 Nobel prize for Physiology or Medicine. --Peter Suber.] _____ Dear Dr. Namaroff: I regret that I am going to have to pull out of the ACS-CSIR conference in India next January. For some time now I have been deeply troubled by the actions of the ACS and this has finally reached breaking point with the violent opposition to the PubChem initiative at NCBI. I find myself no longer able to support anything that carries the imprimatur of the ACS. I was greatly troubled when ACS so vehemently opposed the Open Access initiative. This led me to resign my membership in the society after more than 20 years as a member. The recent legal actions against Google have also disturbed me very much, but the current opposition to PubChem is reprehensible and without any redeeming merit. As an advisor to PubChem I am aware of what they are trying to do and it is in no way a threat to anything that ACS is doing. Rather it complements those activities very nicely and provides for the biological community an important resource that is not provided by CAS. Furthermore, PubChem is keen to provide links to CAS and thereby enhance the usefulness of both resources. My only interpretation of the recent actions by the ACS Board and management is that it is no longer trying to be a scientific society striving towards the goals of its Congressional charter, which is to represent the best interests of the scientists who form its membership. Rather it seems to be a commercial enterprise whose principle objective is to accumulate money. The ACS management team might be well-advised to poll its members to discover if they are happy about the recent actions taken in their names. Aside from the listed recipients of this letter, I am prepared to make to make it publicly available if requested. Frankly, the recent actions of the ACS are a disgrace to its image in the USA and around the world. They engender such bad feelings as to raise in question the motivations of its leadership. I cannot in good faith support any of the activities of a body that has gone so seriously wrong. Richard J. Roberts 1993 Nobel Laureate in Physiology or Medicine Dr. Richard J. Roberts New England Biolabs 32 Tozer Road Beverly, MA 01984 USA -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Joseph Esposito Sent: 02 June 2005 05:58 To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: NIH as publisher I never thought I would be taking the side of the American Chemical Society on anything, but this story really stunned me: http://www.fcw.com/article88988-05-27-05-Web So now the NIH is becoming a publisher! It is one thing for the NIH to stipulate that research it has funded must include a Web-posted article (a knuckleheaded thing, but it is a funder's prerogative). But it is another thing for the NIH to publish material that has nothing to do with NIH grants. I don't get it. Where does it end? Now we have taxpayer-funded publishers, why not taxpayer-funded ice cream stores and give Ben & Jerry's a run for their money. Chemical Abstracts is arguably the most valuable publishing property in the world, surpassing even Harry Potter. I would imagine the ACS will fight vigorously to protect this asset, as would I, as would just about anyone. What a waste of everybody's time. Oh, NIH, why don't you grow up? -- Joe Esposito
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