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Re: Going nuclear on open access
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- Subject: Re: Going nuclear on open access
- From: "Peter Banks" <pbanks@diabetes.org>
- Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:08:41 EDT
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First, I think we should stop communicating by list-serve and e-mail. We should all sit in a room, face to face, and hammer out agreements everyone can live with. It won't be traditonal publishing, and it won't be Varmus-style OA. Let's stop issuing declarations, and start making progress. We all want more information available. To the specific question of how much ADA content is available free access, have a look at our peer-review research journal Diabetes Care. All content is available free access back to 1999, except for the last 6 months. However, we have now decided to lower the delay to 3 months. Moreover, the most clinically important papers have always been available immediately. Perhaps about 150 papers will remain under access control and about 3500 or more will be freely available (I'd do a more exact calculation but I haven't had my coffee!). Moreover, authors can choose to make postprints immediately available through any repository they choose. I hope that clarifies our policy. Peter Banks Publisher American Diabetes Association 1701 North Beauregard Street Alexandria, VA 22311 703/299-2033 FAX 703/683-2890 Email: pbanks@diabetes.org >>> Jan Velterop <velteropvonleyden@btinternet.com> 5/19/2005 6:27:41 AM >>> Peter: I am convinced of the benefits of open access, not only for science, but also for publishers. It has done well in the past, but I have grave reservations about the sustainability of the traditional publishing model, because it extends methods that were appropriate in the print world, with its limited possibilities for dissemination, to the internet world, with maximum possibilities for dissemination. In fact, in my view it artificially limits internet dissemination to mirror the physical limitations of print. Science is about pushing boundaries. It might be good if science publishing were to reflect that. My comments about complacency were a reaction to Anthony saying that "they won't take a leap of faith". Thinking that offering open access is taking a leap of faith is wrong in my view. But those who think it is are free to do so. Publishers who do not want to offer open access are in no way compelled to do so by anything other than market forces. And yes, changing policies on the part of funders are market forces. What I'm trying to say is that it may be good to anticipate changing market forces, changing demands. Not so much author demands, and not only funders' demands, but also the demands of science, the demands the ever growing amount of science results present us with. You say that you already make more than 90% of your content freely available. Good (how many peer-reviewed research papers amongst it? There is an enormous amount of most useful information on your excellent site, but that's not the same as research articles, which is the focus of open access). You already automatically grant authors permission to deposit manuscripts on acceptance in repositories. Good (although I think it is not yours to grant permission, since no law prevents them doing it anyway). So what is it that stops you offering authors the choice of full immediate open access if they so wish and if they pay for it? I'm not talking compulsion here, but choice. You read me wrong if you think that when I say that the industry is conservative, I mean everybody in the industry. I don't mean that, because there are important exceptions. Take Oxford University Press, for example. They have one fully open access journal (because the authorship wanted that, I gather), but they give the authors in all other journals the full open access choice. In a very good and sophisticated way. They haven't taken a leap of faith. They have carefully considered the options and have firmly come out on the side of giving authors (and their funders) a choice. Pay and your article will have full open access; don't pay and your article won't. No risk (unlike not offering the choice, which does carry a big risk). No sanctimoniousness. Just a very clever business decision, that will enable them to cope with the growth that they experience, in terms of numbers of submitted and published papers, much more easily than sticking to the subscription model only. That's the case I'm trying to make: *for* open access, both as as way to improve science communication and as a way for publishers to anticipate the emerging new scholarly communication demands. If I can help any publisher or society on this list, work through the reasons why and details of offering a risk-free open access choice, just let me know. Best wishes, Jan Velterop
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