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RE: Authentication of versions
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- Subject: RE: Authentication of versions
- From: "David Goodman" <David.Goodman@liu.edu>
- Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 22:30:29 EDT
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In a practical sense, it is difficult enough keeping up with literature at King's average rate of 2/day. If one had to simultaneously keep track of the 2 or 3 or 20 variant forms, neither reading nor progress will result. Publication is organized for a purpose, and is not merely random dissemination. The authority of a paper comes not only from where it is published (i.e., the editor and referees), but also by whom the author is, under whose direction was it, and at what University. I am told by physicists that they use arXiv in such a fashion: they go to their subject section, and look for the names they recognize as authors worth reading. This has an obvious bias against new authors--but the bias is not absolute, because the first papers of a new scientist are likely to be co-authored by his director, and because readers know the institution. In any case, most peer-review in science is not blind, and the referees know the person and the institution, giving a similar bias. Science is about people interacting with ideas. Ideas by themselves have no creative power. The concept of "good" as discussed by Socrates and reported by Plato, is what has influenced all later philosophy, not just the concept itself The ultimate authority comes from incorporation into the literature; the early stages of this can be seen in citation studies. And ultimately it is incorporated into the science generally and no longer even cited. But at the beginning, one needs a way to recognize likely work. It's being in a particular journal has long been a good rough screen. If journals survive in some form, this will be why. -----Original Message----- From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu on behalf of Joseph J. Esposito Sent: Sun 6/20/2004 10:59 PM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Authentication of versions >How different is this final version and is that the authentic version and, >if the author has (as urged) deposited the postprint should he or she >then replace it? JE: I participated in a meeting this week in which this question came up in different forms, along with the intriguing idea of developing an authentication service for scientific papers. (This was not a commercial suggestion, by the way.) What isn't clear to me is how important authentication and versioning is outside the context of establishing credentials for individual researchers. To put this another way, if the whole endeavor of scholarly communications were in some way to be decoupled from the world of tenure decisions, professional advancement, etc. (not that this is possible or desirable, but what if?), perhaps by establishing a policy that all publications be anonymous, how important would it be to know what is the first, second, or last version of something? Presumably (and this may be wrong) the "right" version would be the one whose ideas and information would be absorbed into subsequent research and publication, and those subsequent publications would obviate the need to go back to the "authentic" publication. If scientific research is about ideas and not the people who create, discover, or publish them, what is the value of knowing what is and is not the authorized version--assuming always that the *process* of ongoing communications brings the truth to light. Joe Esposito
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