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RE: Monopolies
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- From: "David L. Osterbur" <dosterbu@mcb.harvard.edu>
- Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 20:48:35 EDT
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Jim, I'm not sure what you consider price-gouging but take a look at the thread on Nature price increases from the LIS E-Journal archives (http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A1=ind0405&L=lis-e-journals) . Here is one sample: "we've just received our quote for the renewal of the majority of our Nature e-journals. I was rather shocked to discover that the price increase across the 14 titles was nearly 75% on last year." Maybe not all publishers are doing this but many of the ones who are in highest demand feel that they can. That may not fit your definition of a monopoly but it feels like one from my point of view. David L. Osterbur, Ph.D. Librarian BioLabs Library Harvard University -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of James A. Robinson Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:39 PM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Re: Monopolies On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 19:38:28 EDT Jan Velterop <velterop@biomedcentral.com> wrote: > Nobody *has* to drink Coca Cola; nobody *has* to go to Harvard. Anybody > can choose to take another drink, it doesn't even have to be fizzy, or > prefer another university. > > Scientist *do* have to have access to relevant papers in order to do > their research properly. Papers are unique. They can't just read journal > X because it's cheaper or more accessible than journal Y if the crucial > paper they need happens to be in journal Y. If I understand you, you're claiming each individual article is more like H2O than a particular brand of soda. You believe each individual article is a vital resource, without which death (w/re to research) is assured. Your argument, I believe, is based on the premise that authors have a) a fundamental right to perform research in whatever field they wish, b) deserve the opportunity to widely publish that research, and c) that no article can reasonably be skipped over or bypassed in favor of similar research in more accessible journals. I hope I'm not reading more into your words than you intended. I can't speak to the last of the three items I list (my first impression would be that it isn't true), but I argue that the first two items are a matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. At the very extreme end of the argument, nothing forces a person to do research in a field which has such a narrow interest that there is no space in the publishing world for more than one publication. Nothing forces a person to not publish, or forces them to publish in the traditional sense. People may strongly desire to be published in the traditional sense, but nobody is twisting their arms. I'm sure you aren't arguing to that extreme, but I just want to make the point that people do have a true free-market choice regarding payment for resources in the scientific publishing world. Now, let's say people do want to perform, and traditionally publish, research in a particular field. Let's assume that they do not have enough money to purchase all the leading research. Are there ways for them to gain access to the research without paying for the premium product? Are there ways for them to pay reduced prices? Can they use Inter-library loan, access the Library of Congress, pay $7.00 for pay-per-view, and so forth? Do you think it's incorrect to argue that those means represent reasonable access? I think there are many means available for accessing current research, even if they are not as easy to use or as fast as the more expensive products (e.g., making a handful of pay-per-view purchases vs. buying a site-access bundle, or waiting for inter-library-loan vs. instant online access). I don't believe people are always locked into the most expensive products. I do believe people desire the most expensive products. If I remember my Econ-101 correctly, the theory behind free markets is basically that people pay for resources which a) they able to afford and b) they believe are sold at a worthwhile price (note I do not write "fair price"). Unless pop-culture theory has corrupted my memory (strong possibility), the theory of free markets also states that a monopoly doesn't exist as long as others may reasonably enter the market, usually with either reduced prices or a superior product in order to gain market share. I don't believe a monolithic monopoly exists right now. My department works with many organizations who are not, as far as I can see, price-gouging or stifling competition. In fact, from my point of view, there are very strong market forces at work, and have been for a long time. The entire point behind Open Access (as you've certainly supported via BMC) is to reduce the price to the consumer (readers) in an attempt to gain market share (more readers), drawing that market away from the current large publishers. The debate is whether or not the producers (author + publishers) believe the model is worthwhile, and whether or not two believe they can reach their desired goals (be it the dissemination of the research or profit) and stay in business (performing research or publishing it). I think I'd agree with Mr. Esposito that the publishing industry should not be viewed as somehow outside the world of free markets, but that it is in fact a prime example of the free market, and that it should stay there. Simply because producers have not flocked to the OA model does not mean a true free-market system is not in place already. I think it's clear that market pressure has strongly influenced what authors and publishers have been doing, and that readers are not locked into a monolithic monopoly system. I just don't see the logic behind arguments that governments ought to regulate the price of scientific publishing, or arguments that Open Access is somehow correcting a free-market flaw in the current system. Jim - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - James A. Robinson jim.robinson@stanford.edu Stanford University HighWire Press http://highwire.stanford.edu/ 650-723-7294 (W) 650-725-9335 (F)
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