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RE: Clarification on misquotation of figure from OSI Guide
- To: "'Sally Morris \(ALPSP\)'" <chief-exec@alpsp.org>, <alpsp-discuss@mailbase.org.uk>, "'Liblicense'" <liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu>, "'SOAF'" <SPARC-OAForum@arl.org>
- Subject: RE: Clarification on misquotation of figure from OSI Guide
- From: "David Prosser" <david.prosser@bodley.ox.ac.uk>
- Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:52:58 EST
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For those who find this discussion rather abstract, the (uncorrected) transcript of the first evidence session of the UK Science and Technology Committee into scientific publishing gives us some hard facts: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200304/cmselect/cmsctech/uc39 9-i/uc39902.htm In answer to the question (No. 35) 'what is the cost to you of publishing an article, and what is the price you charge for that article?' Bob Campbell tells us that Blackwell receive =A31250 in revenue per article. That includes all print and online costs, profit to Blackwell (of about 15%), and royalties to societies (where the societies own the journals). Richard Charkin answers that the figures are 'more of less' the same for the Nature Publishing Group journals (with the exception of Nature itself). David C Prosser PhD Director, SPARC Europe E-mail: david.prosser@bodley.ox.ac.uk Tel: +44 (0) 1865 284 451 Mobile: +44 (0) 7974 673 888 http://www.sparceurope.org -----Original Message----- From: David Prosser [mailto:david.prosser@bodley.ox.ac.uk]=20 Sent: 04 March 2004 17:41 To: 'Sally Morris (ALPSP)'; 'alpsp-discuss@mailbase.org.uk'; Subject: RE: Clarification on misquotation of figure from OSI Guide Sally I'm afraid that I don't understand your first sentence. What I do know is that the guide authors did not want to mislead readers and that is why they described the figure as a 'hypothetical example', a 'sample author fee projection' and a 'simple illustration'. They did not describe the figure as an 'estimate of the average cost of publishing a paper across all journals' or even as a 'figure for a single journal'. Unfortunately it is being quoted as such and that is why there was felt to be a need to issue a clarification. Nobody at OSI, SPARC or SPARC Europe is 'backing off' from the figure in the business guide for the simple reason that none of us every put it forward as an example of the real costs of publishing a paper! Our rational approach to costs would be to agree with you that (as you have pointed on other occasions) there are a wide range of estimates of the costs associated with the publication of an article. It is important that these costs are examined carefully, but throwing a hypothetical example into the mix does nothing to clarify the issues. David C Prosser PhD E-mail: david.prosser@bodley.ox.ac.uk
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