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RE: Clarification on misquotation of figure from OSI Guide
- To: "'Sally Morris \(ALPSP\)'" <chief-exec@alpsp.org>, <alpsp-discuss@mailbase.org.uk>, "'Liblicense'" <liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu>, "'SOAF'" <SPARC-OAForum@arl.org>
- Subject: RE: Clarification on misquotation of figure from OSI Guide
- From: "David Prosser" <david.prosser@bodley.ox.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 22:49:42 EST
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Sally I'm afraid that I don't understand your first sentence. What I do know is that the guide authors did not want to mislead readers and that is why they described the figure as a 'hypothetical example', a 'sample author fee projection' and a 'simple illustration' They did not describe the figure as an 'estimate of the average cost of publishing a paper across all journals' or even as a 'figure for a single journal'. Unfortunately it is being quoted as such and that is why there was felt to be a need to issue a clarification. Nobody at OSI, SPARC or SPARC Europe is 'backing off' from the figure in the business guide for the simple reason that none of us every put it forward as an example of the real costs of publishing a paper! Our rational approach to costs would be to agree with you that (as you have pointed on other occasions) there are a wide range of estimates of the costs associated with the publication of an article. It is important that these costs are examined carefully, but throwing a hypothetical example into the mix does nothing to clarify the issues. Best wishes David C Prosser PhD Director SPARC Europe E-mail: david.prosser@bodley.ox.ac.uk Tel: +44 (0) 1865 284 451 Mobile: +44 (0) 7974 673 888 http://www.sparceurope.org -----Original Message----- Sent: 04 March 2004 09:50 To: alpsp-discuss@mailbase.org.uk; Liblicense; SOAF Cc: Richard Johnson; Melissa Hagemann Subject: Re: Clarification on misquotation of figure from OSI Guide Sorry for triple posting but this discussion seems to be going on in all three arenas.. Hmm - Oxford Dictionary: Heuristic: serving to discover I cannot imagine that the authors plucked a figure out of the air believing it to be misleading. Surely OSI/SPARC aren't backing off this figure simply because publishers agree with them? ;-) Until this discussion started, they had gone up considerably in many publishers' eyes for having taken a much more rational approach to costs than had some other OA enthusiasts; it would be a pity to undermine this perception now. Sally Morris, Chief Executive Association of Learned and Professional Society Publishers E-mail: chief-exec@alpsp.org
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