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RE: Open access pricing
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- Subject: RE: Open access pricing
- From: "David Goodman" <David.Goodman@liu.edu>
- Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:41:08 EST
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Joe, I think it's probably a mistake to be very sure of what will work, or even what will be tried. I myself can think of some possible combinations, as can you, as can any publisher. I do not think that there are many known elements that we can be sure of yet, or the effect of the variation in the factors: commercial -- university press -- society large publisher -- small large journal -- small journal with many subscribers -- journal with few high cost of production -- low (both with repect to the publisher, and the journal) high expectation of profit -- low fields with major grant fnding -- with little grant funding fields with long papers -- fields with many short papers fields with non-academic readership -- fields without [etc] Nor do we know the responses of universities, large or small, their academic departments, their funding agencies, their libraries, faculty in each of the various fields. or of non-university subscribers and readers non-university authors Nor do we know the interactions with conventional peer review, other forms of peer review, copy-editing, tenure, quality assessment of departments and universities Many of the things you seem so sure of I rather doubt: I think it unlikely that any publisher will find sufficient added value for any electronic version of a journal to justify charging significantly for it. (though of course they will for those who want print, as some probably still will.) How indexing and secondary access will work in this environment I cannot predict. If I had to guess, I would say that I doubt that there will be any role for the publishers at all in what may become a fully automatic process. Therefore I cannot see what additional benefits payd aggregation would provide in an environment where everything was already available free for aggregated searching. I see nothing that will benefit very large publishing enterprises: I think experience has shown that beyond a certain size they have higher cost of operations. Their only advantage was the size of their bundled packages for those subscribers who considered size more important than quality. The model that to me corresonds to renting disk space is not the author pays model of open acess, but the ArXiv-like database model. What the author pays model corresponds to is conventional publishing, and that is both its strength and its weakness: it preserves the reputations and identies of the journals, and thus need not necessarily affect the academic rewards structure on the one hand, and it does not seem to save much money on the other. Dr. David Goodman Associate Professor Palmer School of Library and Information Science Long Island University dgoodman@liu.edu -----Original Message----- From: Joseph J. Esposito [mailto:espositoj@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Sat 2/21/2004 9:44 AM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Re: Open access pricing A more likely scenario is that Elsevier or other large publishers will have two parallel programs: the traditional reader-pays model with restricted access, and the open access author-pays model. The two programs will be knit together by a common search engine (hence the bigger the collection, the greater the value--another reason why ongoing consolidation is inevitable as sure as water runs downhill), adding value to both and likely encompassing public domain documents as well (in effect coopting the public domain). The author-pays model is really a vertical version of Web hosting; the publisher sells disk space to authors. One can imagine publishers providing the "front end" in their areas to anonymous Web hosting facilities. Think of the way Amazon provides IT infrastructure for various merchants and you will see the basic economics of the idea. In such a scenario commercial open access publishers will compete for authors in a variety of ways, price among them. Some people will buy (that is, pay) on price alone, just as some people fly Southwest Airlines rather than United. But there are other ways to compete. A publisher may be able to generate more traffic or readers to a paper in any number of ways, not the least being aggregating search with proprietary journals. Authors will pay more for the aggregation, the better search engine, the ability to link to more sources and to be linked to, a situation I have termed in another context "the processed book" (http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue8_3/index.html). So we shouldn't expect prices to increase without correspondent increases in value. I outlined this scenario at a conference at the National Academies last year. After the session ended, a prominent STM publisher (nice guy, but, no, I won't mention his name without his ok) ran up to me to ask if anyone was doing this (that is, developing aggregated parallel programs). I said, "You are." And he said, "Yes, soon." Joe Esposito
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