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Re: On the Need to Take Both Roads to Open Access
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- Subject: Re: On the Need to Take Both Roads to Open Access
- From: Stevan Harnad <harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:10:15 EDT
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On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Richard Durbin wrote: > Although I applaud open archiving, from my point of view open access > publishing is what is needed in the long run. Unfortunately, I was unable to discern from your message *what* it is that open-access publishing is needed for that open-access self-archiving does not provide identically. (I assume that by "open archiving" you mean open-access self-archiving, for otherwise "open archives" just means archives with OAI-compliant metadata.) The capabilities you think one provides that the other does not seem to be connected with data-archiving, and your argument seems to be based on (1) an analogy with the data-sharing in genomics as well as the increasing amount of (2) data that are now included in some journal articles. Both cases have been discussed in this Forum already. See the discussion thread: "Free Access vs. Open Access" http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/2956.html To take the second case first: If data are included in the journal article (2), then they are included in the open-access version of the article, whether that version is made open access through open-access publishing or through open-access self-archiving. Either way, whatever is in the published article is freely accessible online. Data that are *not* included in the published article (1) can and should be self-archived too -- http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Temp/data-archiving.htm -- but this has nothing to do with the problem of open access to journal articles! > This is because the key property is not that everyone can get at a copy > of a publication, but rather that people can use information in it > computationally, producing extracts, syntheses, new indexes etc. This > is now possible. Whether the digital text (including data) of an article is made openly accessible by being published in an open-access journal or by being published in a toll-access journal but being self-archived in an open-access archive is irrelevant: Either way, the data reported in it are available to be used computationally. Don't confuse the use and re-use of data with the use of the *text* to generate other text (other than by quoting it): Any other re-use of text is plagiarism (i.e., if it is not quotation). Text, unlike data and software code, cannot be reprocessed and made one's own: It can only be cited and quoted. http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/2967.html > I come from the community that led open release of data in genomics: the > C.elegans genome mapping then sequencing project, followed by the human > genome project. The real value of the way that genome data such as the > human genome sequence is available is that people can use it and build > on it. Any genome data that is included in an article that is openly accessible online can be used and built upon in exactly the same way, regardless of whether it has been made openly accessible by being published in an open-access journal or by being published in a toll-access journal and self-archived. > Building on publications used to be open, because the only way > to do it was to read and then write something else (e.g. a review or a > new paper with a new idea). And a subscription cost was reasonable > historically because most of the costs were in printing and > distribution. Now, at least in biological science, a lot of valuable > data are published in papers in tables and figures, and people are > developing computational tools that can use this information, and even > the free text. (See www.textpresso.org for an example of the latter.) > So there are ways to use the information in papers for new science, but > to do this we need much more open access to the literature. How much more-open access do you need than open access (i.e., free, full-text, online access)? And how does open-access publishing provide it and open-access self-archiving not? (We agree about the obsolescence of toll-costs, but that's neither here nor there. Both open-access publishing and open-access self-archiving free the online text from those toll-barriers.) > Research funding is provided to generate outputs that others can build > on. Funders, and the rest of the system, want publication to be as > unconstrained as possible, and the only reasons that we haven't yet > taken advantage of electronic publishing to make things less constrained > are historical inertia and the commercial interests of some publishers > (see last week's Wellcome Trust report). Unfortunately I cannot discern the point you are making here: We agree that toll-barriers are bad and obsolescent, that research is written to be used and built upon ("research impact"), that online publication is preferable to paper, and that open-access online publication is preferable to toll-access online publication. But what has this to do with open-access via open-access publication vs. open access via open-access self-archiving? The Wellcome Trust report, as far as I can discern, supports both: Specifically, the Trust: (1) welcomes the establishment of free-access, high-quality scientific journals available via the Internet; (2) will encourage and support the formation of such journals *and/or free-access repositories for research papers*... (3) will meet the cost of [open-access] publication charges (4) encourages researchers to *maximize the opportunities to make their results available for free*... http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/3030.html > So, for me, Open Archiving is just a tactical move to keep the > publishers moving to the larger goal of changing scientific publishing > to a better and more natural model, which is possible now with the > network and electronic publishing. > Richard Durbin, Head of Informatics, Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute Open-Access Self-Archiving is a tactical move for one goal, and one goal only: open access to the peer-reviewed research literature (as soon as possible). It *might* also help move journal publishing eventually from the toll-access to the open-access model http://www.nature.com/nature/debates/e-access/Articles/harnad.html#B1 but that is not only speculation, but unnecessary speculation, on which nothing else depends, and for which open access certainly need not and should not wait. What is needed, now, is open access, and it is attainable, now, through self-archiving. Whether it does or does not also eventually lead to a transition from toll-access to open-access publishing is not the main issue, but if you wish to see self-archiving as a strategy for moving journal publishing to a better and more natural model, you are certainly free to see it that way: Either way, what is needed is universal self-archiving, now. The optimal dual open-access strategy is: (1) For all articles for which a suitable open-access journal (about 500 exist so far), publish them in an open-access journal. and (2) For all other articles, publish them in a suitable toll-access journals (there are about 23,500) but also self-archive them in your institution's open-access archive. http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Temp/dual-strategy.htm Stevan Harnad NOTE: A complete archive of the ongoing discussion of providing open access to the peer-reviewed research literature online is available at the American Scientist September Forum (98 & 99 & 00 & 01 & 02 & 03): http://amsci-forum.amsci.org/archives/september98-forum.html or http://www.cogsci.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/index.html Discussion can be posted to: september98-forum@amsci-forum.amsci.org
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