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RE: Sabo Bill: Measure Calls for Wider Access to Federally
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- Subject: RE: Sabo Bill: Measure Calls for Wider Access to Federally
- From: Ann Okerson <ann.okerson@yale.edu>
- Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:45:20 -0400 (EDT)
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Phil Davis is right to suggest that there can be various acceptable ways of paying for e-content, i.e., a variety of business models. We all need to work together to identify models that will *work,* whether they be the kind of behind-the-scenes, up-front payment that the open access movement supports, or some kind of subscriptions, or... On a related note, Jan Velterop's posting below suggests that in open access models, libraries will somehow *not* pay for e-content. Yet I would observe that at our institution we have paid and are paying for at least some open access e-journals, through what look to me very much like subscription prices, though they are called memberships. We can call such annual payments memberships, or founders fees or supporting fees, but in the end they are a business model that feels like a subscription by a different name. Libraries who have budgets will be essential in paying for open access. If we think that's not the case, we could be fooling ourselves. **NOTE: I'm not writing here about the pros and cons of open access, but rather how we all will support ejournals in the present and future. These two concepts seem often to get mixed up.** Sincerely, Ann Okerson/Yale Library >> PD: I'm not sure there needs to be the dichotomy between open-access >> and subscription-access as you set up. As the original Public Library of >> Science proposed, open access to research would be available after 6 >> months. [snip] >> >> This would still enable publishers to make money on the value-added >> services they provide but still allow eventual open-access to the public. >> Many society publishers have already adopted this practice, [snip] >> and libraries have confirmed that they are still willing to >> pay for the immediacy of good information. > > JV: I'm sure libraries are prepared to pay for the immediacy of good > information. But 'willing'? Do they really have a choice? Are they not > also 'prepared' to pay for the largest and most expensive package deals? > >> Commercial publishers, however, have been very reticent to adopt this >> practice, undoubtedly because it would result in a massive correction >> in the prices they would be able to charge. > > JV: And not only commercial publishers, I might add. Some > crypto-commercial societies fit this bill, too. It may not be a > black-and-white situation, but it is very dark grey indeed.
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