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- Subject: RE: 'Confused'
- From: "Peter Picerno" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 18:28:11 EDT
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Perhaps there are times when the cost of information is simply too high ... this may be one of them, in which case maybe the department of which the professor is a member could fund this database and deal with the eccentricities of the vendor in question -- at which point maybe the professor's or department chair's outrage would be rightly vented to the vendor representative. Since libraries are, remember, essentially charitable organizations our funding and service capabilities *do* have limits which are sometimes prescribed or proscribed by circumstances: and if there are legal problems involved or even the question of legal problems involved, we should have no guilt or pangs of conscience from backing away from a situation which could conceivably imperil our institution. P V Picerno Chuck Hamaker writes:- "It's unenforceable, so why waste time "negotiating". Just sign the thing and get the access There are too many of these things out there to waste time or breath or energy. The individual signing may be unaware of state law, or may believe the license is unenforceable. And under the rubric of service to patrons is just getting access without the hassle of negotiation." Oh how I symapathise! My present predicament in an ongoing negotiation for a relatively low cost service (see my previous appeals to this list). Is it a question of where ignorance is bliss (on the part of the supplier that is) or the legal niceties of signing what you know you can't enforce but what seems to be required but doesn't meet your definition of responsibility and what's reasonable. Had the monetary decisions been mine I would have said no long ago but since a lecturer requires the service for a course he runs I have been instructed to pursue this. I'm sure there will come a point soon where the cost of my time will equal the cost of the service in question. Problem is now that I am involved in lengthy negotiations, if I just sign the license , no doubt the company in question would wonder what was going on. On the other hand since I sign the licenses I feel it's important to sign a license I can agree to. John Cox in a message to me said:- "Rule no 1: don't sign anything you do not understand or cannot accept. You are quite right to argue with them." Sound advice but would it have been easier all round if I had signed and awaited the consequences (if any!!)? What would you do Chuck?? Ros Doig Serials and Interlending Librarian University of Derby Kedleston Rd Derby DE22 1GB Tel. 01332 622222 Ext.1204 Fax. 01332 622767 Email. M.R.Doig@Derby.ac.uk