RE: privacy@wiley.com

["Hamaker, Chuck" <cahamake@email.uncc.edu>]

In fact, Wiley sends out all sorts of stuff. The most recent, when they
withdrew "individual" registration and said, go see your librarians.

When I look at Wiley as a librarian:

"New and improved" access, looks intrusive, and cumbersome and
marginalized. No students need come looking, only faculty who REALLY want
to see--probably their own articles

There are other publishers out there being cumbersome about security (ie.
passwords AND IP filtering) and identifying individual users, but they are
in the minority in my experience, and the more hoops they want, the less
likely they are to experinece significant use of these products and the
less likely they are to have a product that people want to pay for.

So carry on with the fortress mentality, it can only marginalize! And how
are fortress publishers going to integrate with secondary services?? or is
that even on their horizon??? Why, when key publishers ARE integrating
access with secondary services, or working with suppliers for pay per use
(such as with IQ 's product) why should I really care if some of the
publishers marginalize themselves. I guess I shouldn't...

Pardon this break from personal introspection.  Carry on wiley....Up with
the walls!!

Chuck Hamaker


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Alan Edelson [SMTP:amedelson@topnet.net]
> Sent:	Wednesday, April 07, 1999 12:13 AM
> To:	liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu
> Subject:	Re: privacy@wiley.com
> 
> I have read through Wiley's User Terms of Service Agreement and
> questionnaire, and, while I personally dislike filling out such forms, I
> find nothing unusually  invasive about the questions, except that you
> may be quite certain that you will be on their computerized mailing
> lists to receive promotional literature in the areas of interest you
> have indicated. The information requested is no more extensive, and in
> many ways less extensive, than that which is routinely asked of us by
> manufacturers of computer hardware, cameras, television sets, credit
> card companies, and so forth, so that they understand the demographics
> of their market---and so that they can, if they choose, sell this
> information to mailing list brokers. Failure to fill out the forms to
> some extent may mean failure to validate a warranty or to receive credit
> card approval.  Which is why I use a post office box address for all
> such questionnaires, and my home address for more personal mail. Once a
> fortnight I stop by my post office box to empty the mound of junk mail
> into a nearby waste basket. It's part of being immersed in a
> consumer-driven economy.  And by the way, you are not under oath when
> filling out such forms, and you can become creative when asked truly
> inappropriate questions.
> 
> Alan M. Edelson, Ph.D.
> 
> Jane Holmquist wrote:
> 
> > In response to a recent e-mail message, we have just taken
> > another look at the User Terms of Service Agreement for
> > Wiley Interscience e-journals at  http://www.interscience.wiley.com/
> >
> > Is anyone else concerned about about their 'Privacy and
> > Data Protection Policy' and requirement that all users provide
> > certain personal information in order to use their e-journals?
> >
> > There is a note that Wiley's privacy and data protection policy
> > is reviewed periodically, and any comments or questions can be
> > sent to privacy@wiley.com.
> >
> > Should we as librarians speak up on behalf of our users?
> >
> > Jane Holmquist and David Goodman, co-chairs
> > Electronic Journals Task Force
> > Princeton University Library