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RE: Double Licenses
- To: "'liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu'" <liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu>
- Subject: RE: Double Licenses
- From: Terry Cullen <tcullen@seattleu.edu>
- Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:22:41 EST
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Steven, You don't sound at all confused to me. The arrangement you describe is perfectly acceptable. But now some publishers have imposed on the system a purportedly separate license with the end user, that the user "accepts" by clicking through to release the database for searching. I know of no cases in which such click-throughs have been enforced, or even of any cases in which a publisher has sued an end-user for breach of the click-through license. In my opinion, they aren't enforceable from either a legal or practical view. But these click-throughs may purport to restrict uses beyond the restrictions agreed to by the library, and thus have a chilling effect on legitimate uses by the end-user. The publishers who use these click-throughs call it "education," but I think it is over-reaching. Terry Cullen, Esq. Electronic Services Librarian Seattle University School of Law Library 950 Broadway Plaza, Tacoma, WA 98402-4470 Email: tcullen@seattleu.edu Phone: 253-591-7092 FAX: 253-591-6313 .On Wednesday, February 03, 1999 6:03 PM, Steven Melamut > I am confused. Let's assume that a vendor and the university sign a > license agreement for the vendor to provide the university with student > access to a digital database. The license (contract) prohibits certain > uses. Among the prohibited uses is mass downloading of the database or > republishing the materials on the Internet. If a student successfully > copies material to a public Internet site, in violation of the license, > the violation is between the university and the vendor because they are > the parties to the contract. It is a breach of contract - no copyright > issues involved. The vendor can sell you a license to a digital copy of > the phone book (ProCite does don't they). The contract is binding > despite the fact that it is unprotected by copyright law. > > The responsibility for preventing violations of the license lie with the > university. Punishment of the student is the university's problem. That > should be fine with the vendor since the student is likely to be > impoverished or unidentifiable. > > It is not a copyright issue. It is a question of contract law. > However, that does not mean the student can freely do what she wants. > The student can only assume the rights the university has available to > transfer. Another words, there is still no fair use issue for the > student because there is no fair use right to transfer. In practical > terms, this just means that this defense is unavailable to the > university when everyone goes to court. > > It would seem in the best interests of the university to warn the > students about any restrictions on the database. The question of the > vendor's "double license" should be covered in the original license the > university and the vendor signed. Someone at the university should be > carefully examining the license. I have seen at least one contract this > year where the corporation attorneys got confused and placed the wrong > parties in the wrong place in the contract... > > steve > > (naturally the opinions, errors in logic, or whatever, that appear above > are solely my own) > > > ****************************************************** > Steven Melamut > Kathrine R. Everett Law Library > University of North Carolina > CB #3385 Ridge Road Chapel Hill, NC 27599 > melamut@email.unc.edu > work: 919-962-1194 fax: 919-962-1193 > ******************************************************
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