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Re: "Double" Licenses
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- Subject: Re: "Double" Licenses
- From: CopyrtLib@aol.com
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:25:59 EST
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Hi Ann and others: It seems to me that because of a legal principle called "privity of contract", the electronic publisher wants to ensure that the terms and conditions in the license agreement are in fact effective. Privity of contract means that one can only obligate the person or institution -- ie the library -- and not subsequent users -- ie the patron. Thus, if the publisher has in its contract with the library that a patron can only make one copy of any article in its database, and the patron makes 2 copies, then the publisher has no right in the contract to sue the patron. However, if the publisher also enters into a contract with the patron, then the publisher would have such a right. Another way of achieving the same goal is to obligate the library to ensure (if this is really possible) that the patron only make one copy and therefore create a contractual obligation on which the publisher can later take a legal action. As long as the terms and conditions are consistent in the library and patron agreements with the publisher, it may be more advantageous to a library because they are then less legally obligated for the actions of the patron (which is difficult to control.) Lesley Lesley Ellen Harris Copyright & New Media Lawyer Editor: Copyright & New Media Law: For Librarians & Information Specialists In a message dated 20/01/99 5:29:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, ann.okerson@yale.edu writes: << Already this year I've seen two electronic information "deals" that require two levels of license. That is, the institution (library) negotiates and signs a license with the provider AND then once the reader goes to the site to retrieve the information, he or she is asked to "click" to agree to a set of terms and conditions. I.e., two license agreements are in play: one with the institution and one with each individual reader. Perhaps this has been happening to us all along, and I've only noticed this because of reading two such licenses within a few days. The "click" is NOT the same as "dear reader, here you are and here are our working rules" -- rather, it is an attempt to create a legal agreement between the provider and the individual. In each case, the terms are reasonable enough, but I question that the readers fully understand the kinds of liabilities that they are accepting by clicking. And, as we have heard/discussed ad nauseum, "click" licenses are also problematic in that there is no possibility for the reader to query or negotiate with a form on the web. In any case, it seems to me that the information provider's deal needs to be either with the INSTITUTION, who negotiates and accepts all the overarching responsibility for compliance with the license, OR with the READER, leaving the institution out of the relationship. There is an incompatibility between asking for both. Comments please from you publishers, librarians, and lawyers out there? Ann Okerson Associate University Librarian Yale University Ann.Okerson@yale.edu >>
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