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From: "Tom Sanville" <>
Subject: Fw: Consortia pricing-Bibliography of Asian Studies
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 09:31:10 -0500

I would concur with Gay's advice re. the Bibliography of Asian Studies.  I
would also suggest that individual (i.e., with individual consortia)
negotiation of prices might be a good way in this case, if Gay's advice
were followed. Each consortial group is different. 

Tom Sanville, Ohiolink

-----Original Message-----
From: Gay Dannelly <>
To: <>
Date: Sunday, February 01, 1998 12:28 PM
Subject: Consortia pricing


   I'm giving a brief response to your concerns from a background in
OhioLINK and CIC.  The difficulty of adding up and dividing is that in many
consortia there are institutions that do not now acquire BAS and would not
spend any significant amount of money to do so.  To some extent this holds
for the head count also.  I think you might want to consider another model
that looks at your current income from the subscribers in the consortium,
give a discount on that, and then add a modest (and I mean very modest!)
amount for those that do not currently subscribe.  In CIC it may be that
every central institution library does subscribe (I would be shocked if any
do not -- even Purdue).  In CIC it is, however, most unlikely that any of
the branch campuses do and they, for the most part, have separate funding
agencies and mixed reporting lines, which influences the way their budgets

   Again, in OhioLINK we have members who are two year institutions with
both academic and/or technical programs.  There is very little likelihood
that they would find any value in BAS in relation to their extremely
limited budgets.  That doesn't mean that select faculty might not find it
useful, but the expenditure of resources on what is to the institution a
marginal title is not likely to happen.

    I would be happy to discuss this further with you if you like.

Gay N. Dannelly
Assistant Director for Collections
The Ohio State University Libraries
1858 Neil Avenue
Columbus, OH  43210-1286
(614)  292-6151
(614) 292-7859 (FAX)

>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:19:47 -0500 (EST)
>From: John Campbell <>
>Subject: Consortia pricing
>Ann Okerson encouraged me to join your group and ask this question.  The
>Association for Asian Studies is about to release its Bibliography of
>Asian Studies on the internet, via library subscriptions.  This is the
>standard source for Western language monographs, journal articles, and
>(many) chapters in edited volumes on all of Asia, all disciplines, with
>400,000+ entries from 1971 to (fairly) current.
>WE have tentatively decided to use the same four categories of
>institutional size that JSTOR employs, with an annual price of $1,200 to
>$500.  In talking with knowledgeable people, however, I am told that we
>will immediately hear from various consortia seeking special prices.  They
>might be a whole state university system with many campuses, or an
>organization of otherwise unconnected institutions.
>JSTOR tells me they just refuse to deal with consortia, but I worry that
>(1) we aren't quite as vital for many libraries and so might lose
>customers, and (2) consortia might well be a good idea for other reasons
>than getting discounts on digital materials so we should cooperate.
>My question is, if we do decide to cooperate with consortia, how should we
>set the prices?  I would much rather have a rule than get into individual
>negotiations, but what kind of rule.
>Offhand I see two approaches.  One is to add up what each campus would pay
>separately, and then apply a discount (say, 10 percent).  Another would be
>to establish a price per student head that goes down as the number goes
>up, and add these numbers across all the campuses.
>In either case, I am assuming we would require that (1) the payment would
>have to come from one source, not each campus, and (2) one source is
>responsible for telling us all the eligible IP addresses and informing us
>of changes.
>I should add that the AAS is not intending to make money out of this
>enterprise, though it is imperative that we get enough revenue to cover
>the substantial cost of compiling this bibliography into the future.  I
>hope that our goals and those of academic librarians overlap enough to
>offset the normally tense relationship between electronic providers and
>those who purchase their services.
>Many thanks for your consideration,
>John Campbell
>From John Campbell, Prof. of Political Science, University of Michigan,
>and Secretary-Treasurer, Association for Asian Studies. Tel 313 998 7558.
>NOTE NEW FAX AND MAILING ADDRESS:  313 998 7982; and Corner House,
>202 S Thayer St, Ann Arbor MI 48104-1608.
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