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Re: OA economics & libraries
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- Subject: Re: OA economics & libraries
- From: Joseph Esposito <espositoj@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:44:16 EDT
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David, It is highly improbable that the study suggesting that Gold OA would cost less than conventional publishing is correct; or if it proves to be correct, then it will be for reasons that are not anticipated in the study. The problem with studies like this (this is not the only one, and this applies to many kinds of modelling) is that in order to make certain extrapolations, you have to hold a number of figures as constants, when in fact they are variable. An analogy: you are driving a car on a large highway. You wish to go faster than the other cars and you are confident that you can change lanes repeatedly to pass the others. So you assume all the other cars will stay in their lanes while you zigzag in and out. And you succeed: you go faster than the others. The catch (which could be fatal) is if one of the other drivers decides to change lanes. Then your extrapolations get you into serious trouble. To assume that scholarly communications would look pretty much the way it does today EXCEPT for the change in the payment model is naive. You can change one gene and change the entire organism. This is not the only naive bit of modelling to be found. Large commercial firms do this all the time. Remember when CD ROM was going to become a billion-dollar business? A computer spreadsheet can be a deadly enemy in the hands of arrogant management. I don't know how the discussion of flexibility crept into this discussion. From your example, it would appear that the only way a company can be flexible is to go OA. That's plain silly. Companies are more or less flexible depending on the business opportunities before them. They are flexible in pursuing a higher return on capital, inflexible otherwise. They stick to mature models too long; they usually innovate too late. All their "flexibility" (call it management, which is the proper term) goes into optimizing the return on capital. That's what they are about. They should not be romanticized, and they should not be demonized. Every day the managers are making the same kind of decisions that we all do with the money we have placed in our retirement funds. I don't know anyone who is flexible about pursuing a lower return on savings. Gold OA is under strain right now. Partly this is because of the entry into this business of the likes of Wiley and Sage (neither of which you mention), but it is also because of competition from other not-for-profits, which are going to drive prices down. Gold OA will look increasingly like PLOS One (lighter editorial review), and then degrade over time as pressure on costs becomes stiffer. This does not mean that traditional publishing will emerge triumphant. It simply means that over time, all economic activity will adjust itself to accommodate changes in the environment. I happen to agree with you that no 30% company will chase a 20% opportunity. I see we have all read Clayton Christensen. Another question, which Christensen can't help us with, is what happens when a 1% company finds itself operating a -10% business. If you are Springer or Wiley, the decision is easy. If you are the Wellcome Trust, I don't know what will happen. Joe Esposito On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:25 PM, David Prosser <david.prosser@rluk.ac.uk> wrote: > A couple of points in reply to Sandy's first paragraph. > > The first is on costs. A detailed piece of economic modelling > (see below for link) showed that Gold OA would be cheaper for > the UK (as a publication-heavy country) if the average price > for publication was less than about 2000 pounds. Interestingly, > 2000 pounds is significantly higher than the fee charged by > most successful OA publishers and journals (BMC, Hindawi, PLoS, > New Journal of Physics, etc) and about the level of the most > unsuccessful OA publishers (mainly hybrid options from larger > publishers - and here I use 'successful' as meaning attracting > authors and revenues to the publisher). So certainly at this > stage and based on the modelling done it would look as if a > move to OA would save money - at least for the UK. > > The second is on publisher flexibility. I do not recognise the > picture of flexible, rapidly reactive large commercial > publishers rushing to embrace Gold OA. Let's take Elsevier. > They have a hybrid model with very low take-up (they tell us) > - I assume partly because it is priced to defend revenues, not > attracted authors. They have a tiny number of actual open > access journals. There is no gold rush there. Of the large > publishers only Springer (a private equity company) appears > to have embraced OA, having purchased BMC and now using that > experience as a spring-board to launch a number of new OA > titles. And perhaps Nature as one of the smaller companies > (although it is part of a much larger group). > > Where Sandy sees commercial publishers as being quick on their > feet, I see feet dragging. And why is that? Well, if you were > sitting on a diamond mine providing over 30% profits what would > your reaction be to somebody who came and said 'Have I got a > deal for you - get rid of your diamond mine and take up this > great gold mine. I can give you, say, 20% profits'? Any chief > executive who took that proposition to their shareholders would > be quickly looking for a new job! > > David
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