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RE: Another post about the Georgia State:Cornell "case"
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- Subject: RE: Another post about the Georgia State:Cornell "case"
- From: "Hoon, Peggy" <phoon@uncc.edu>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:26:30 EDT
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I am gratified to hear from Peter directly about the "Cornell" guidelines or situation or victory or whatever it was characterized when it first occurred. I did compare, as Peter suggests, the before and after policies many times, because I was baffled how the events could be portrayed as this big victory, as it was in the popular press. I finally decided that it fell under the "If you say it loud enough and strongly enough, some people will believe anything" category. Thanks for the insight, Peter - Peggy Hoon Scholarly Communications Librarian UNCC ________________________________________ From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:29 PM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: RE: Another post about the Georgia State copyright case A small clarification to Kevin Smith's comment below: The copyright checklist in use at Cornell was developed after the AAP had withdrawn from direct confrontation with the University. It was prepared by Cornell's legal staff, without any input from the AAP. And I would challenge Tabb's characterization that Cornell "capitulated" to the AAP in the first place. We should know better than to trust the press statements that the AAP issued to make it look like it had won something. In fact, if you compare the previous ereserve policy to the current electronic course content copyright guidelines, developed by a faculty group in response to the discussions with the AAP, you will see that the new policy is actually more open to fair use analyses than the old one. It was developed in the firm belief that decisions that centered around the creation of print anthologies in commercial copy operations (the MDS and NYU cases) were not applicable to what libraries and universities do: making available noncommercially and efficiently to students a selection of materials that they can elect to view or print as part of their educational endeavors. There was no discussion between Cornell and the AAP over what constituted acceptable fair use, and I don't think any agreement could have been reached on the issue. One of the most pleasant surprises about the GSU case has been that Georgia State has been as forthright in defending fair use as I think Cornell would have been had the disagreement continued. Peter Hirtle
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