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RE: Data-mining Hamlet
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- From: "Nat Gustafson-Sundell" <n-gustafson-sundell@northwestern.edu>
- Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 21:50:18 EDT
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This coverage is surprising since Moretti's approaches, at least as reported here, have been around for awhile. At the most recent Digital Humanities and Computer Science colloquium, there were several variations on his approaches (and lots of different ways to make network analyses look different from one another), though one of the underlying currents was to question if there is anything really to be gained from such crunching, whether really, it is anything but a toy or will ever amount to something really substantial. Obviously, there are a significant number of practitioners who seem to think there is something there, but the savviest among them seemed to be careful about how they expressed their expectations of the new tools. Obviously, for example, a Shakespeare scholar already knows that Rosenkrantz and Guildenstern don't speak to each other. One prominent DH and Shakespearean scholar, Professor Martin Mueller, speculated (at the colloquium) that DH computational analysis has not really offered any new insight, although it has been fun playing with the graphical representations of the data (...lots of sound and fury signifying nothing? How does that line go?) which has otherwise been knowledge internalized and thunk upon by scholars, although he seemed committed, perhaps from a sense of duty or perhaps from a sense of play, to keep experimenting. Personally, I too find the graphics appealing. I also think there may be something to some of the approaches. Mere text analysis seems to me unlikely to yield much more than toys, although the more sophisticated approaches enabled by some of the xml mark-up projects underway may allow some meaningful depth. Story analysis could be interesting. The network analysis described in this article is one fairly simple approach (see for comparison the 2 network analyses presented in http://chicagocolloquium.org/dhcs-program-2010/). I recently set up a DB for a scholar to do a kind of story analysis which could end up being very interesting, but I won't describe it here since she is just getting started -- but I think the best of these kinds of projects will require a great deal of scholarly interaction and interpretation in order to "uncover" the data. (as an aside, this project reminded me of Propp's formal analysis of Russian fairytales, so I looked to see what use was being made of his work in a DH context, of course to find a couple of sites allowing one to build one's own fairytales) The issue of value, I suppose, must be personal. As a kid, I loved books of lists and probably still would if I had more time, and some of these analyses feed right into that interest. When did certain words appear or become prominent in parlance in newspapers or fiction? Do we learn anything from such an analysis? I think the answer depends on the person who sees the analysis. A scholar probably already knew it in some way, but the use of the analysis could make for a point, probably among many, in an article or chapter. As for demonstrating the merit of mass digitization projects, I think that is already happening in lots of different ways -- among them the fact that students are enabled to close-read texts (and compare editions) that were otherwise less available (see some of the reading lists at the Hathitrust). I recently saw an article (sorry no link since I can't remember where I saw it), about how there's a movement among foodies to go back to 17th, 18th and 19th century recipes and food preparation techniques. The source docs enabling this "movement"? Digitized texts now available for free download. -Nat -----Original Message----- From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu [mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Joseph Esposito Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:01 PM To: Liblicense-L@Lists. Yale. Edu Subject: Data-mining Hamlet Fascinating piece on computational analysis of Hamlet at boston.com: http://bo.st/lEa35M And the long link: http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2011/05/29/hamlet_and_the_region_of_death/?page=full I think this is the kind of work that will eventually demonstrate the merit of mass digitization projects. I would love to see someone working in this field put together a demonstration site for a popular audience--data-mining of the complete works of Jane Austen, for example. Joe Esposito
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