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Branch 'campuses' in the Gulf - digest
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- Subject: Branch 'campuses' in the Gulf - digest
- From: Mark Muehlhaeusler <mpm97@georgetown.edu>
- Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 20:22:58 EDT
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Dear All, Thank you for the many responses to my query regarding site licensing for overseas offices and branch libraries. I a sure some of you are interested in a brief digest of some of the most interesting posts, which is given below (extracts only , anonymous). This is a selection only, but I thoroughly appreciate all the replies I received. To sum up, most academic libraries try to negotiate single-site licenses, and are very often successful; however, much of their bargaining power depends on the institutional setup, and the size of the branch as compared to the main library. In a few, isolated instances, libraries have had to pay additional charges (either a small percentage or a full subscription), or even obtain a separate license. This would appear to be the exception rather than the rule. The contributions by non-library members are particularly revealing: it seems that vendors are much more persistent in their dealings with hospitals, and private foundations than they are with universities. That may be a reflection of limited materials budgets in academic libraries: as one respondent remarked, vendors would effectively price themselves out of the academic market if they were to charge universities for every single geographic location. All this goes to prove that in our licenses, we need to define 'site' by IP range, and users by their affiliation, not their geographic location (walk-ins excepted). Again, thanks to all for your valuable feedback. Best, Mark ---- DIGEST: "Our Qatar campus is considered a part of the US campus and we share access to all of our database subscriptions. We have one vendor who insisted the Qatar campus be a separate entity and we went ahead and separated the Qatar campus from the main subscription. We haven't had any probems with ANY other vendor/publisher. I would say that each institution has their own arrangements with publishers. Whoever told you we all follow the same formula is wrong." "We've been able to make the case that our Qatar campus is part of our University -- their faculty are our faculty, they receive degrees from us -- with most of our vendors (it probably helps that the FTE on the campus is only around 400). But we have had a few stubborn vendors that have refused to see things our way. In some instances, we've had to sign a multi-site license. In others -- [...] is the one I can think of off the top of my head -- we've had to have a separate license and purchase an additional seat for our Qatar campus." "We are not a university, but we do have offices abroad that work through our IP (one in Qatar, as a matter of fact). Many of our vendors license per IP, but some only license our US sites as a group, and a few license by individual site which just makes us tremendously angry. We usually can't negotiate out of it and we need the resource, but we make a huge ordeal for them every year in an attempt to educate." "The Clinic has a hospital in Florida, outpatient clinics in Nevada & Toronto, and is building a hospital in Abu Dhabi. These sites usually are each treated as separate sites with just a few exceptions." "For all this, there is the suspicion that the is an evolving area and that current practice is likely to change especially as campuses overseas grow and more campuses are opened in markets that publishers have themselves earmarked for expansion." ----- Original Message ----- From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu <owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu> To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu <liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu> Sent: Wed May 25 03:52:50 2011 Subject: Branch campuses in the Gulf Dear all, Georgetown has a permanent presence in Education City, Qatar, that serves as an outpost for its School of Foreign Service. Library resources at the Main Library and in Qatar are shared. Now a situation has arisen where a publisher insists that our small branch in the Gulf represents a separate campus, for which a separate license -and, of course, payment- is required. Against our protests that the Main Library and Qatar are one 'site' within the same IP range, the vendor holds that they: "have numerous affiliates of American universities in the Middle East and all of the institutions abide by this policy [of counting branch campuses as separate entities]." Hence my question: Is this statement true? How do your institutions handle licenses for branch campuses, or offices abroad? All comments, including off-list, are much appreciated. Best, Mark Muehlhaeusler Director, Copyright and Licensing Georgetown University Library
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