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RE: open access to dissertations
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- Subject: RE: open access to dissertations
- From: Kevin Smith <kevin.l.smith@duke.edu>
- Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:45:28 EDT
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Really, Sandy, your choice of examples is indicative of where the problem lies. Both of these works were published over thirty years ago. Times have changed dramatically since then. Library purchasing power is a fraction of what it was when these books were issued. It is easy to dispute any particular decision when one is not in the position of having to make that decision, but librarians must decide the best way to spend those very limited dollars. For each revised dissertation that is bought, some other deserving book is not purchased, and the decisions are made in that balance, not in isolation. I do not know if librarians would buy some modern day equivalent of these examples; to know that we would have to also know what they would not be able to purchase as a consequence. What I suggested, and what I believe to be accurate, is that librarians often have to exclude revised dissertations from approval plans precisely because they so often involve this difficult decision about relative value. It is not ignorance or willfulness, it is simply the necessity of dealing responsibly with the money we are given in a market where we can purchase but a fraction of what we would like to buy. I do not understand why the message that we do not have unlimited money, so that we can simply evaluate each book on its own merits and buy all that are worthwhile, is so hard to communicate. I suppose one reason is that recognizing that fact would involve acknowledging that it is the pricing policies of publishers, albeit a different group of publishers from those who usually publish revised dissertations, that are partly responsible for the situation. Kevin L. Smith, M.L.S., J.D. Scholarly Communications Officer Duke University kevin.l.smith@duke.edu<mailto:kevin.l.smith@duke.edu> ________________________________________ From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu On Behalf Of Sandy Thatcher [sandy.thatcher@alumni.princeton.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 4:58 PM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Re: open access to dissertations Are librarians really this short-sighted, or ignorant even? Are they not aware that some of the classics of various disciplines were revised dissertations? In my article, I cite a number that i handled at the two presses where I worked, books that became pioneering works in their fields, like Susan Moller Okin's 'Women in Western Political Thought" or Peter Evans's "Dependent Development," books that (contrary to Kevin's presumption) were neither narrowly specialized nor expensive and that ended up selling well in excess of 20,000 copies. Kevin may think that these are very rare exceptions. Based on 44 years of acquiring scholarly books for Princeton and Penn State, i can tell you that they are not. If librarians are making these decisions about not buying revised dissertations on the grounds that Kevin imputes to them, they are making a very serious mistake indeed. I'd like to hear from other librarians on this list whether they think Kevin has accurately characterized their decisionmaking. Sandy Thatcher At 10:14 PM -0400 4/12/11, Kevin Smith wrote: >Sandy's research confirms what librarians are usually perfectly >ready to admit, that they often must exclude revised >dissertations from approval plans. The problem with the >Chronicle article, however, is that it correctly notes the >effect but selects the wrong cause. I doubt any librarian >excludes dissertations because of open access ETD repositories >or even because of ProQuest availability. Being based on a >dissertation is simply a surrogate, in approval plan profiles, >for weeding out books likely to have a very high cost and a >limited audience. As monograph budgets shrink, libraries simply >cannot afford to buy books that will have only very specialized >readerships and will sometimes cost over $100 per title. If >such purchases are to be made at all, they have to be made in >response to an expressed need, not included in a blanket >approval plan where very limited returns are permitted. And >from this perspective, information about the scope of revisions, >will it would be helpful, is probably not determinative. > >Kevin L. Smith, M.L.S., J.D. >Director of Scholarly Communications >Duke University, Perkins Library >P.O. Box 90193 >kevin.l.smith@duke.edu
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