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Re: Rights Reductio Ad Absurdum: Elsevier and Angels
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- Subject: Re: Rights Reductio Ad Absurdum: Elsevier and Angels
- From: Stevan Harnad <harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:55:23 EST
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This is a (rare and gratifying) ecumenical outcome: All parties -- OA advocates, rights specialists and publishing specialists -- agree that Elsevier is, and remains, squarely on the side of the angels insofar as author OA self-archiving is concerned. The tempest-in-a-teapot induced by some inadvertent gibberish introduced into some of the Elsevier policy language by some foggy-minded wag can and should be ignored (as should any echoes of it amplified by central policy registries). So now we can all get back to the urgent task at hand: Getting institutions and funders to mandate OA self-archiving... Amen, Ezekiel On 2011-01-11, at 8:04 AM, Sally Morris wrote: > I can confirm this - I have also obtained their licence alternative it on request (since my article was about a model 'Licence to Publish' I could hardly have done otherwise!) > > Sally > > > Sally Morris > Email: sally@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk > > > From: American Scientist Open Access Forum > Sent: 11 January 2011 10:53 > To: AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM@LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG > Subject: Re: Rights Reductio Ad Absurdum > > Yes indeed, that it what I use with Elsevier. The company does not advertise the fact, but it has this licence available to anyone who asks for it. > > Charles > > Professor Charles Oppenheim > > --- On Tue, 11/1/11, Alma Swan <a.swan@TALK21.COM> wrote: > > From: Alma Swan <a.swan@TALK21.COM> > Subject: Re: Rights Reductio Ad Absurdum > To: AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM@LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG > Date: Tuesday, 11 January, 2011, 5:33 > > Charles Openheim wrote: > > > I negotiated with Elsevier when my article was accepted by one of their journals > > My refusal to assign copyright was at the time a matter of principle > > rather than any anticipation of the OA movement. So issues of having to >> later negotiate permission to self-archive never arose. > > Elsevier has a Licence To Publish which it will provide if an author declines to click through its Copyright Transfer Agreement online. > > I offered Elsevier the SPARC/Science Commons Author Addendum instead of signing the CTA and in response was sent the LTP. It allows the author to keep all the rights needed for personal dissemination, re-use, etc while obtaining, for Elsevier, sole rights to publish it in a journal. Since most articles are not ever destined to be published in more than one journal, this seems a very satisfactory solution for the majority of cases. > > Alma Swan > Key Perspectives Ltd > Truro, UK
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