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RE: Does Dramatic Growth of DOAJ Signal Success or Market Dysfunction?
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- Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:41:31 EST
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Not sure if Scott's question was serious or not, but it's actually an interesting one. Seems to me that there are a number of aspects of 'success' in a journals system. The most crucial one is economic sustainability (which perhaps was what Phil meant by 'economic success' - he'll no doubt clarify). Without that, the whole edifice collapses. This doesn't necessarily mean making profits for shareholders (though it may do), and some of the inputs may be in kind - voluntary labour, use of accommodation, facilities, computing, etc - though these still have a cost to someone, somewhere. Another is satisfying the needs of authors - getting their work out there speedily to the maximum number of (relevant) readers, with whatever quality markers they consider important (e.g. the 'imprimatur' of a well respected journal) and whatever editorial improvements they value. Yet another is satisfying the needs of readers - making it easy to find relevant work, which has passed whatever quality controls they consider important, and which when found is clear and understandable (and can be reliably cited and found again - unchanged, or with any changes clearly indicated - by others). I would think that the certainty that the citations in a given article are accurately linked to the originals to which they refer was pretty important to readers, too. Then I guess there are also the needs of institutions, funders etc to consider I'd be most interested to know what others think are the criteria of success in a journals system Sally Sally Morris South House, The Street, Clapham, Worthing, West Sussex, UK BN13 3UU Tel: +44 (0)1903 871286 Email: firstname.lastname@example.org -----Original Message----- From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of T Scott Plutchak Sent: 20 December 2010 04:28 To: email@example.com Subject: RE: Does Dramatic Growth of DOAJ Signal Success or Market Dysfunction? Please define "success". T. Scott Plutchak Director, Lister Hill Library of the Health Sciences University of Alabama at Birmingham firstname.lastname@example.org -----Original Message----- From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of David Prosser Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 5:22 PM To: email@example.com Subject: Re: Does Dramatic Growth of DOAJ Signal Success or Market Dysfunction? >From Phil's post: 'But does this type of growth really indicate economic success in open access publishing? Or does growth simply point to a system gone awry, like the growth in unemployment or the proliferation of spam?' There is just about no metric of success for OA that Phil can't spin into bad news. Of course he doesn't actually say that OA journals are like spam - just leaves the words floating there. David On 17 Dec 2010, at 03:47, Philip Davis wrote: > Two new studies that analyze the distribution of journals in the > DOAJ come to opposite conclusions. see: > > For Open Access Journals, Size Does Matter: > > http://goo.gl/fb/Qpkwd > > --Phil Davis
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