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RE: Licenses that forbid ILL (was Re: Roundtable Press Release)
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- From: "Chen, Xiaotian" <chen@bumail.bradley.edu>
- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:28:46 EST
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Requiring "that the lending library print out a copy of the article and use that to initiate the loan" was more common in the past than present, even though it is still pretty common. I am wondering why the library community in general still can live with this requirement that was written in the 1990s. Can we save some time and trees by getting rid of this 1990s "printing out" requirement? CARLI, the academic library consortium in my state of Illinois, seems to be doing just that with all publishers. See P. 3 for Interlibrary Loan at http://www.carli.illinois.edu/reports/board/LicensingPrinciples.pdf. Xiaotian Chen Electronic Services Librarian Bradley University Peoria, Illinois 61625 ________________________________ From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu on behalf of Todd Puccio Sent: Wed 1/27/2010 5:24 PM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: RE: Licenses that forbid ILL (was Re: Roundtable Press Release) Most of my newer licenses specify that methods of "Secure Transmission" (such as Ariel...) for the practice of Interlibrary Loan according to CONTU guidelines etc. are acceptable. If not, I ask them to add that language into the document. It never hurts to simply ask. This exists in at least 80% of my vendor contracts. As they expire and new ones are drawn up I ask them to add it. Basically we are no longer accepting generic licenses so easily. It is a bit of a pain to get this through the University Lawyer but we're working on improving that, too. Todd Puccio -----Original Message----- From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu [mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Stemper Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:01 PM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Licenses that forbid ILL (was Re: Roundtable Press Release) On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, T Scott Plutchak wrote: "In my experience there are very few licenses that flat out prevent interlibrary loan. In most cases, publishers require that the lending library print out a copy of the article and use that to initiate the loan, rather than sending the pdf directly. Personally, I think this is an unnecessary inconvenience, but we're still able to make the loan." *** In U-Minnesota's experience, ILL restrictions still have to be addressed in most of the generic licenses we receive. Many seem to use the John Cox academic library license template, and either change the "ILL allowed" clause to say "not allowed" or delete it altogether. While many of the big publishers like Elsevier / Springer / Wiley do allow ILL in their generic licenses, many of the society publishers do not. Below are the publishers that would not agree when we asked them for the usual "make a printout and fax it" ILL right (and these don't even count the publishers who would not have granted it, had we not asked in negotiation). How can any of us reasonably cancel print titles from these publishers, if we hope to have electronic ILL access to them in the future? * Academy of Political Science * Adenine Press * American Association of Immunologists * American Association of Physics Teachers * American Society for Bone & Mineral Research * American Society of Civil Engineers * American Society of Mechanical Engineers * American Vacuum Society * Annee Philologique * Atypon * Canadian Institute of Forestry * Civic Research Institute * DigiZeitschriften * Ecological Society of America * Elsevier (FDC Reports) * Institute of Mathematics of the Polish Academy of Sciences * Materials Research Society * National Association of Social Workers * National Research Council of Canada * Ovid * White Horse Press Further, Lynn Wiley's 2003 survey of ILL offices in the CIC and their e-resource licenses found that most CIC member libraries encountered cases when ILL was prohibited entirely [and] when the delivery mechanism was restricted, such as in electronic delivery ("License to Deny? Publisher restrictions on document delivery from e-licensed journals," /Interlending & Document Supply/ 32 no. 2 (2004): 95-6). Evidently not much has changed in seven years. Jim Stemper
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