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RE: International Financial Statistics license

Even though it is odd for the IMF person to say that, maybe 
libraries would not need to ILL "International Financial 
Statistics?"  It is a typical reference collection item.

Xiaotian Chen
Electronic Services Librarian
Bradley University
Peoria, Illinois 61625

From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu on behalf of David Thibodeau
Sent: Wed 11/4/2009 5:45 PM
To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu
Subject: RE: International Financial Statistics license

Hi Bob,

This is a truly bizarre response from a publisher.  I would check 
to make sure you have reached the correct Alexa Smith.  Note that 
the e-mail address is different.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu
[mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Robert H. Scheier
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:06 PM
To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu
Subject: International Financial Statistics license

Hi. Can someone tell me if the IMF can claim that "we're not
subject to copyright law." This is in regard to ILL for the paper
eds. of the title "International Financial Statistics." I was a
little surprised to see that claim (see below). I thought if you
publish in the U.S. you have to abide by U.Sl laws. No?

Bob Scheier
Electronic Resources Librarian
Dinand Library
College of the Holy Cross
Worcester, MA 01610-2395
Email: rscheier@holycross.edu

-------- Original Message --------
Subject:        RE: FW: International Financial Statistics license
Date:   Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:38:00 -0600
From:   Alexa Smith <acp.smith@yahoo.com>
To:     <rscheier@holycross.edu>

Hi Bob,

Sorry, but we can't agree to the language.  We have not allowed
ILL in print or electronic form, and we're not subject to
copyright law.  Also, we wouldn't agree to be in compliance with
any specific language of a country's laws unless we had reviewed
that code, and since we serve subscribers in so many countries,
we can't review individual codes.

I'm sorry if that will prevent you from executing the license,
and that we can't be more flexible.  It hasn't been a problem in
any of the other negotiations I've handled, but I understand that
each institution has its own requirements.

Best regards,


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert H. Scheier [mailto:rscheier@holycross.edu]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 12:48 PM
To: Alexa Smith
Subject: Re: FW: International Financial Statistics license

No we really cannot.

We only ask that you let us print out and then send via ILL as we
do with our print material. Most publisher now can agree on this.
We are not asking for the electronic ILL. Only what is allowed
under copyright law. Please let me know what the outcome is and I
will take it to the full collection development committee.


Alexa Smith wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>Thank you for your responses.  I think the only thing we have
>outstanding now is ILL.  I'm sorry but we simply don't allow it
>and this has never been agreed in the three years that I've been
>overseeing contracts.  I appreciate you being flexible and I'm
>sorry I can't be more so.  If you can let this one go, then I'll
>clean up the copy and send it to you.
> Thanks and regards,
> Alexa
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert H. Scheier [mailto:rscheier@holycross.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 12:34 PM
> To: Alexa Smith
> Subject: Re: FW: International Financial Statistics license
>Hi Alexa. Here are my responses to your comments. I have agreed
>to most of your point. The are a few things that I need to stand
>firm on, e.g., ILL (paper based). See document for my comments
>and let me know if you have more questions.
> Bob
> Alexa Smith wrote:
>> Dear Bob,
>> Sarah Shepherd forwarded your draft to me.  I have reviewed
>> the contract and we do have some issues to resolve.  Whenever
>> possible, we try to accommodate contract change requests, and
>> I know that many universities have very specific policies.
>> However, some of the requests are against our own policies.
>> I thought it would be best for us to work through these on the
>> document, so I have showed my changes and inserted comments on
>> the attached draft.  Also, before completion, we will need to
>> have Schedules 1 and 2 completed.  If it would be easier to
>> discuss this by phone, I'd be happy to call you at your
>> convenience.
>> Please let me know how you would like to proceed.
>> Regards,
>> Alexa Smith
>> Commercial Licensing Officer
>> Publications Services
>> International Monetary Fund
>> 952-944-5729
>> Alexa.Smith@imf.org