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RE: Critique of OA metric
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- From: "Nat Gustafson-Sundell" <n-gustafson-sundell@northwestern.edu>
- Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:49:29 EDT
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<<If you don't believe this, try it. Create a Web site (it takes two minutes) using a blogging service such as WordPress. Post an article to it. Post another article (or the same one) to an established online venue. The article in the established venue will show up higher in search engine rankings.>> Of course, your experiment only works as such in the first month, depending on other factors, though the ranking algorithm will include measures of how many like-resources are linked to your website, the length of time the website has been around, the number of times that specific website has been chosen from among results, and so on. While these kinds of measures strongly favor established venues in the short run, there are means for new venues to gain attention and to begin appearing in top results, usually through indexing services and linking (other shortcut SEO measures generally backfire), but best of all by updating periodically or frequently with substance on subject. Ranking algorithms are always evolving and are, of course, well-guarded, but I see results changing all the time. For searches by keyword to subject or area (and you can test this with new journals that have appeared in the past 5 years), I don't think earlier established venues are favored at all, at least not in my experience searching for literature. In fact, I choose to use Google sometimes because it will get me outside of the box. I've heard reports that the new library discovery interfaces will tend to do a better job of finding good results than the generic engines, but haven't had the opportunity to test yet. Brings up an interesting thought however -- in the absence of metadata indicating resource-level substance and quality, will the collection become more prominent (i.e. since I'm getting this using the library's discovery interface or because the Google Scholar results show my school branding, I know it is good...). Next gen library systems are expected to pay a great deal more attention to the new variety of electronic resources (aside from just articles), to include flexibility in metadata, to include recommender services, to push services based on major, etc. and so on, so resource consumption could become more context driven and less blind. Stay tuned til next week. -Nat -----Original Message----- From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu [mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Joseph Esposito Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:20 PM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Re: Critique of OA metric David's post is an interesting one. He is certainly correct that search engines (Google is simply the most prominent, but not the only means of discovery) "atomize" collections of papers. This could lead someone to believe that the "wrapper" of an atomized article is no longer important, but this overlooks the mattter of search engine rank. It is one thing to find an article about hypertension or a specific aspect of materials science, quite another for that article to rise to the top of a long list of potentially relevant Web sites. For search engine ranking, such matters as brand are very important, as they collect online attention and links and lead to higher scoring. If you don't believe this, try it. Create a Web site (it takes two minutes) using a blogging service such as WordPress. Post an article to it. Post another article (or the same one) to an established online venue. The article in the established venue will show up higher in search engine rankings. As a footnote, I don't believe David is correct in his discussion of PLOS One. PLOS One is borrowing the brand of the PLOS flagship journals. This is a tricky business. It works fine until it doesn't. Readers are coming to PLOS One (presumably authors, too) thinking they are getting the editorial rigor of the PLOS flagships, but they aren't. Can this go on forever? Perhaps. But consider this: when you buy a telephone handset for a landline phone that bears the AT&T brand, does it matter that AT&T has not manufactured handsets in years? It matters to me. Joe Esposito On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:54 PM, David Prosser <david.prosser@bodley.ox.ac.uk> wrote: > It is simple to conceive of a decoupling between the journal > 'quality' brand (is the research correct?) and the journal > 'alerting' brand (here is a group of articles that may be of > interest to you) as described by Sally. In the print world > grouping papers thematically together made perfect sense; in > the online world where people increasing use search engines > (whether specific, like Medline, or general, like Google) to > find papers it is perhaps less useful. > > So, a journal table of contents e-mail may be useful, but > equally I may be more interested in seeing the daily digest of > papers with a particular tag in Connotea, say. That way the > community would define its own interests rather than having the > collection codified by an editor. And different communities > could combine the content of different journals in different > ways. This to me is what PLoS One has done - provide the > quality brand, but leave the 'what's this journal about' to the > readers. It seems inevitable (and was once titles and > abstracts went online!) that the 'alerting' brand is going to > become less and less within the control of publishers and more > in the control of users. > > David > > David Prosser > SPARC Europe
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