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Re: Humanities and Social Sciences Journals: ideas on how to transition to OA
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- Subject: Re: Humanities and Social Sciences Journals: ideas on how to transition to OA
- From: Joseph Esposito <espositoj@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 06:55:19 EDT
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Ian Russell and I are in strong disagreement about this matter. I believe that anyone who wants to start an OA journal or convert a toll-access journal to OA should retain Ms. Morrison as a management consultant. Joe Esposito On 9/3/09 2:50 PM, "Ian Russell" <ian.russell@cytherean.co.uk> wrote: > What a quite extraordinary post. > > So a careful piece of research by a well respected consultant > with an extremely impressive knowledge of, and background in, > academic publishing comes up with a figure of $7000 for the > average processing fee for the journals examined and in a few > paragraphs of waffle Heather has reduced this to zero. > > I guess that the assumption by Heather that 45% of the publishing > costs for all HSS journals can be met from advertising revenue > tells you all you need to know. Anyone with any knowledge of > publishing would find this ridiculous. > > Then again, perhaps the title of Heather's blog tells you all you > need to know, or perhaps it should just be shortened to Imaginary > Economics... > > Ian Russell > ALPSP > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu > [mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Heather Morrison > Sent: 02 September 2009 23:20 > To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu > Subject: Humanities and Social Sciences Journals: ideas on how to transition > to OA > > Following are some thoughts on how humanities and social sciences > publishers can move forward toward open access, inspired by Mary > Waltham's brave preliminary foray into research on the economics > of these journals, The Future of Scholarly Journals Publishing > among Social Science and Humanities Associations, available for > download from: > > http://www.nhalliance.org/news/humanities-social-science-scholarly-journal-p > ublis.shtml > > In brief: Humanities and social sciences publishers might wish to > consider the marketing advantage of OA in positioning their > associations / societies and journals for the future. Members of > scholarly societies are scholars. Open access works to the > advantage of these scholar-members, who likely have many reasons > for belonging to a society, such as fulfilling the service > component of expectations for an academic. Why not actively > engage members in the transition? This could be helpful not only > to transition journals to open access, but also healthy for the > association, too. > > Institutional subscribers - libraries and consortia - are vocal > advocates of open access. Why not engage them in discussion about > how to transition? For example, would they consider hybrid > site-license / open choice approaches? Since this is a priority > for libraries, would moves like this help to protect society > publishers from cancellations in these difficult economic times? > This post re-analyzes Waltham's data on the feasibility of an > article processing fee approach for the 8 journals studied. It is > suggested that self-selection of journals may have resulted in > high-end rather than average costs. Factoring in advertising > revenue, it seems possible that the publication cost for > online-only for even these high-end journals with rejection rates > in the range of 90%, could be well under $1,000. Assuming that > members and institutional subscribers continue to support the > journals / associations, needed APFs could be reduced > substantially, perhaps to 0. Which is indeed, what most OA > journals charge: nothing! Waltham's 8 non-OA journals are > contrasted with 716 journals listed in DOAJ under the same > general subject areas. > > For details, please see The Imaginary Journal of Poetic > Economics, at: > > http://poeticeconomics.blogspot.com/2009/09/humanities-and-social-sciences-t > houghts.html > > Heather Morrison, MLIS > The Imaginary Journal of Poetic Economics > http://poeticeconomics.blogspot.com > Associate Editor, Scholarly and Research Communication > http://www.src-online.ca/
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