RE: Darnton on the Google settlement

["Joseph Esposito" <espositoj@gmail.com>]

Google is NOT expected to determine the copyright status of 
millions of books.  Google is expected not to digitize them 
without permission.

Joe Esposito

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[mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of David Prosser
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:01 PM
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Subject: RE: Darnton on the Google settlement

I find it amusing that Google is expected to determine the 
copyright status of millions of titles before they can be 
digitised, but it is apparently unreasonable to expect publishers 
to determine the copyright status of the titles they publish 
themselves!

David Prosser
SPARC

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[mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Sandy Thatcher
Sent: 30 January 2009 04:09
To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu
Subject: RE: Darnton on the Google settlement

At 12:21 AM -0500 1/29/09, Rick Anderson wrote:

>> There is, alas, a very significant amount of labor involved 
>> for publishers to investigate what digital rights they have in 
>> the books Google has digitized and to negotiate with authors 
>> over display and other types of rights they share under the 
>> settlement. This is hardly just a "free ride" for publishers.
>
>True -- it's essentially a free ride for the general public, but not
>for publishers.  However, my understanding (which may be flawed) is
>that publishers who choose not to participate can withdraw their books
>from the program very easily, and therefore end up no worse off than
>they were before the project.

I'm not sure how easy it is for a publisher to withdraw books. 
The publisher first has to identify which books in the database 
it can claim to own. And even identifying which books the 
publisher has published may not be so simple a task, especially 
for ones published before ISBNs came into use in 1970. All the 
books published between 1923 and that date have to be searched by 
means other than ISBNs.

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