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Re: Correcting Stevan Harnad's Misrepresentation
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- Subject: Re: Correcting Stevan Harnad's Misrepresentation
- From: "B.G. Sloan" <bgsloan2@yahoo.com>
- Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:59:48 EDT
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Joe Esposito says: "What is really needed in the research community is not open access but 'open access follow-through.'" I'm not quite sure what "open access follow-through" entails. Maybe Joe could explain? Bernie Sloan Sora Associates Bloomington, IN --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Joseph J. Esposito <espositoj@gmail.com> wrote: > From: Joseph J. Esposito <espositoj@gmail.com> > Subject: Correcting Stevan Harnad's Misrepresentation > To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu > Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 5:47 PM > Sigh. Stevan Harnad wrote: > > I kept resisting the posting of a message that amounts to > "nyah, nyah" but this is too rich: 25 Green OA self-archiving > mandates by funders worldwide, including NIH, 6/7 of RCUK and > ERC, and 25 institutional mandates, including Harvard, Stanford > and CERN, and Joe and Jan think the future of green is bleak?" > > JE: I have never said the future of OA is bleak. I have said > precisely the opposite, that OA is inevitable. And Harnad > knows this, but insists on misrepresenting my position. I say > he knows this because he wrote a long and vitriolic response to > an article of mine several years ago; that article has been > cited on this list before ("The Devil You Don't Know," > http://firstmonday.org). In that piece I asserted that "Open > Access is the future." Consider how bizarre this is: Harnad > writes a long attack on an article that mostly agrees with him. > > What I have said is that OA in itself is unimportant and that > it inevitably will drive up costs. The Harvard faculty can > mandate OA for itself (and, as far as I know, it is within the > faculty's right to do so), but it won't make people read more > thoughtfully. The NIH can mandate OA for materials based on > research it underwites (and why not? They paid for it), but it > won't improve the quality of the material. I think it is > highly doubtful (but neither proven nor provable) that the OA > articles mandated by the Wellcome Trust (for research it has > funded, etc., etc.) will yield more citations or higher impacts > than had the material been toll access. OA doesn't make us > smarter, it does not improve the economy of the United Kingdom > (one of Harnad's claims of a couple years ago, if I understood > the argument correctly), and it does not "democratize" > knowledge or research, except in Lake Woebegone, where all the > children are above average. > > Thus, even as OA is becoming increasingly widespread, the > rationale for supporting it becomes weaker and weaker. This is > the house of cards: not OA itself, but the reasons to support > it. > > What is really needed in the research community is not open > access but "open access follow-through." But this > follow-through applies whether documents are OA or toll access. > And that is why OA is not that important. Harnad is solving > the wrong problem. > > Joe Esposito
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