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RE: How much advertising is there?
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- From: "Tony McSean" <tmcsean@hollar.co.uk>
- Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:42:48 EDT
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. . . and I'm involved with the European health librarians' association whose journal (JEAHIL) is supported by advertising and long-term distribution support from Ebsco. However, not everyone has as much of their employer's money to spend as a librarian. It is said that the BMJ's decision to slip back from full OA was because the advertising revenue on its own didn't meet the funding appetite of its BMA parent. Given what scientific researchers are paid int he UK it's hard to see advertising agencies licking their lips at new opportunities in this area. Tony Tony McSean +44 7946 291780 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Toby.GREEN@oecd.org Sent: 21 September 2007 23:51 To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: RE: How much advertising is there? Just to support Joe's argument with a little bit of real data. We have a niche (totally distinctive?) online magazine (which also comes out in print) called OECD Observer (www.oecdobserver.org). The online edition has always been freely available. It earns $3000 annually thanks to Google's ads, which covers about half the hosting and software licencing costs. Toby Green Head of Publishing OECD Publishing -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Joseph J. Esposito Sent: 20 September, 2007 11:50 PM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: How much advertising is there? The recent announcement by the New York Times concerning the termination of its Times Select premium subscription service has deservedly attracted a great deal of attention, on this list and all over the blogosphere and "mainstream media." The Times may or may not be successful with its new strategy (my own view is that it was the right decision, but the Times's future is by no means assured), but of course not all media organizations have the brand and cultural centrality of the Times; the Times thus is no model for anyone. What I wonder about is where all the advertising revenue is going to come from to support all these media businesses, whether they are the Times, Elsevier's new ad-supported oncology site, or any of the two dozen new Silicon Valley social networking start-ups I stumbled upon in just the past month (owners of pets, parents of young children, human potential activists, financial planners, etc., etc.), not to mention such academic publishing services as Scholarly Exchange. So we step into the laboratory and ask this question: How much must the world's economy have to grow in order to support all these media businesses? A media business aggregates audiences, which in turn are sold to advertisers. The advertisers have their own products and services to sell (and not all of them are media products, thank god). If they can't sell their products, the advertising dries up and the media businesses scale back or disappear. Let's say a company budgets 10 percent of total revenue to advertising. Thus, with sales of $10 million, the company spends $1 million on advertising. For every dollar thus spent on advertising, the economy must grow by ten times that amount. How many shirts, stents, time share condos, cars, and toilet seat covers do we need? The market isn't there for all this advertising. The world's resources are not there to create the forecast volume of goods and services to satisfy the demand created by the advertising. We will run out of fossil fuel trying, and then have virtually no economy left to advertise anything. The notion that the sale of advertising alone somehow can support the full range of information businesses is crazy. It may work for the Times or South Park, and Elsevier has a shot with its new portal, but the fate of most advertising-supported businesses is oblivion. Only the strong, the huge, and the totally distinctive survive. B-level players need not apply. Joe Esposito
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