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Comparing university costs for subscripion & OA
- To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu
- Subject: Comparing university costs for subscripion & OA
- From: Peter Suber <peters@earlham.edu>
- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:02:02 -0400 (EDT)
[Ann: Since I'm responding to issues raised by your message, and not issues raised by earlier messages in this thread, you may want to change the subject line to something like "Comparing university costs for subscription and OA journals". --Peter.] Ann: Thanks for your reminder of Yale's per-article costs for subscription-journals. The trick is to find equally accurate numbers for Yale's costs in a hypothetical future in which all subscription-based journals have converted to open access. For example, your comparison below assumes (1) that all OA journals charge author-side publication fees and (2) that universities would pay all these fees on behalf of their faculty. Currently, the majority of OA journals charge no author-side publication fees at all and, where fees exist, many more funding agencies than universities are willing to pay them. Of course, both patterns may change. But where we have good information about present patterns, it should anchor our speculations about the future. Or at least we should model possible futures under a range of plausible assumptions rather than under one set of assumptions we know to be untrue to current patterns. I'd like to see someone fine-tune the comparison in order to take into account that only some fraction of OA journals charge fees and only some fraction of these fees will be paid by universities. If it's arbitrary and contentious to pick just one fraction for these calculations (whether today's fractions or the assumed 100%), then we should use a range. The least contentious would be a full range like 0, 10%, 20% ... 100%. After we do that, we can talk about which future is more likely. But at least we'd have more than one picture on the table, including several that rest on more realistic assumptions. For more detail on these comparisons, the assumptions underlying them, and ways to refine them to improve their accuracy, see my article, "Good facts, bad predictions" (June 2006), http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/newsletter/06-02-06.htm#facts Best, Peter Suber ----- At 08:38 PM 3/18/2007, you wrote: >David: Why do I feel we are covering old ground and old >inaccuracies below?? > >Sometime in 2004 there was discussion both on this list and in >other venues, noting that the publishing output of large >research universities is considerably higher than your numbers >below, and thus -- if a per article fee of any size (over $900) >is to be charged for STM, these universities will need to find >considerably more funds than they are currently spending on >subscriptions, where the cost is shared by many readers. > >I don't intend here to disagree about what is the best >cost/price model for publishing research, but rather to repeat >some data from my December 2003 seminar presentation on this >topic, based on approximate (conservative) publications numbers >from Yale -- which is not by any means the largest STM article >producer among ARLs: > >Number of STM articles published (most indexed by ISI >with an estimate for the rest): 3,600 >(this excludes humanities journals) >*I estimate the above number is about 10% on the low side and >that the real number was closer to 4,000) > >STM journals budget that fiscal year $3.6M > >On this basis, our per-article STM purchase >cost was: $900-1,000 > >Assuming those same STM 3,600 - 4,000 articles >@ your $2,500 $9M-10M > >@ $1,250 (which is LESS than PLoS now charges >and also less than the top BMC journals) $5M > >It's almost impossible to calculate the humanities numbers as the citation >sources for them are much more scattered and meager, and the citations >patterns are very different to STM. Social Sciences fall somewhere between >the two and are not estimated above. > >Ann Okerson/Yale Library [...]
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