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[Jean-Claude Guedon jean.claude.guedon@umontreal.ca=>]

This is an incredible perception. Just for starters, try
OpenOffice and Firefox and remember that they both are open
source software.

A great many tools to publish, including publishing in XML
format, and not simply pumping out pdf files, exist and they are
open source.

PKP and the OJS platform is just one (excellent) example of such
platforms.

Learned bodies and competittive environments have little to do
with the realities of open source these days.

Jean-Claude Guedon


Le jeudi 08 mars 2007 at 20:08 -0500, Anthony Watkinson a ecrit :

> I am afraid the free Open Source software does not deliver the
> sort of functionality that the learned bodies many of us work for
> and the editors they appoint are looking for in a highly
> competitive situation. Or at least this is the perception of the
> scholarly individuals all publishers are dependent on.
>
> I have not personally looked into the matter so all I can quote
> is perceptions. Have you yourself Heather actually tried out
> these different systems? I have not seen an analysis of
> electronic manuscript submissions systems since the excellent one
> by Mark Ware.
>
> How many large journals are hosted on Scholarly Exchange? It
> would be good if a library-run and highly successful organisation
> like HighWire could explain to this list why learned bodies come
> to them rather that use these cheap alternatives. After all
> Stanford University Libraries are hardly red-in-tooth-and-claw
> "traditional" publishers - but their services are not cheap.
>
> Both not-for-profit and commercial publishers really do try to
> keep their costs down. They need to do. They are businesses.
>
> They are also in a competitive situation. They compete for the
> best journal editors and the top authors and both these
> categories of academics expect the best support that can be
> provided.
>
> The fact that we are in a sort of arms race may be unpalatable
> and unfortunate but it is a fact.
>
> Anthony
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Heather Morrison" <heatherm@eln.bc.ca>
> To: <liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Post Brussels : Elsevier and Australian STM debate 'sprouts'
>
>> Anthony Watkinson says:
>>
>> heavy technology items like manuscript submission systems have added
>> to the editorial costs
>> http://www.library.yale.edu/~llicense/ListArchives/0703/msg00052.html
>>
>> Perhaps this was true a few years ago - but no longer!  There is now
>> free, open source software, such as Open Journal Systems:
>> http://pkp.sfu.ca/?q=3Dojs
>>
>> Plus, highly affordable hosting and support options, such as the
>> services provide by the Scholarly Exchange, who provides a free first
>> year and second-year hosting at $750 US per year.  Scholarly Exchange
>> also offers a revenue sharing advertising option, which means that
>> journals can actually earn revenue from being hosted at Scholarly
>> Exchange:
>> http://www.scholarlyexchange.org/
>>
>> Heather Morrison
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