Re: Reply to David Prosser

["Sally Morris \(Chief Executive\)" <sally.morris@alpsp.org>]

To answer Fred's question, Christine Baldwin did a study in 2004 
for ALPSP and Blackwell which looked at just these statistics - 
see http://www.alpsp.org/publications/pub8.htm Sally


Sally Morris, Chief Executive
Association of Learned and Professional Society Publishers
Email: sally.morris@alpsp.org
Website:  www.alpsp.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Banks" <pbanks@bankspub.com>
To: <liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 3:43 AM
Subject: Re: Reply to David Prosser

> There is a third party. It's called the IRS. Anyone who cares 
> to look into where nonprofits get and use their money can read 
> 990 forms. Subscription and advertising income are clearly 
> spelled out, as are the uses to which net income is applied. 
> Monies tend not to pile up in bursaries, but to be put to 
> immediate use for purposes such as research, education, and 
> advocacy.
>
> Peter Banks
>
> On 9/18/06 6:16 PM, ""FrederickFriend"" <ucylfjf@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> > I applaud Joe's call for more evidence from the NFP publishers.
> > It would be good, for example, to know what percentage of their
> > surpluses they plough back into bursaries etc. I am prepared to
> > believe that this "science dividend" is important, but if we are
> > to take account of it in the move towards OA we do need to know
> > how big a factor it is. From JISC's experience with NFPs in Mary
> > Waltham's study for us on learned society business models, I know
> > that societies are reluctant to open up their accounts, but
> > surely they could trust an independent third party with the
> > information.
> >
> > To answer the point about the effect of "big deals", they harm
> > NFPs in transferring library money away from individual
> > subscriptions (often NFPs) into block subscriptions from the
> > major (usually commercial) publishers. Yes, libraries pushed for
> > these "big deals" but are now beginning to realise the
> > disadvantage in locking up a large proportion of their budgets.
> >
> > Fred Friend
> > JISC Scholarly Communication Consultant
> > Honorary Director Scholarly Communication UCL
> > E-mail ucylfjf@ucl.ac.uk